Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Jack Devlin, Sep 21, 2012.
A couple of Dead Chicken "variants".
(Pardon the cell phone camera - my "good" camera broken.
Great fly. I am going to tie both versions. Read Chicken and your half-dead chicken or whatever you decide to call it. Maybe Colonel Sanders is an appropriate name, or KFC HAHA
Hi Jeff. A fun and easy fly to tie. The original pattern is just red tail, gold ribbed yellow chennile body and grizzly hackle. Cutthroat like Dead Chickens.
I looked up the "Gray Hackle Yellow," and it looks like a cross between a Dead Chicken and a "Partidge and Yellow." More like the latter with some red hackle fibers for the tail. Size 14 was recommended by the old timer.
I fished a similar pattern and had good success with it until I lost it (only tied up the one). The front 2/3 of the body was orange chenille, with an olive chenille butt, and a tail of orange calf tail. 4 wraps of gold tinsel.
Hmmm, I seem to be out of wet grizzly hackles. Maybe they're just buried.
Eureka! Found a small bag of smaller wet grizzly that I actually plucked from a chicken my friend raised and butchered. It'll do just fine for tying the smaller sizes..
I've been trying to use new patterns for cutts lately to avoid reverting to a clouser or deceiver; I'll definitely add this one to my box for the weekend! I'll post a picture of it when I'm done to make sure I got pretty close.
I thought a Dead Chicken Streamer version was in order. Tied with an Edson style metal "cheek". Adds some weight and some shine.
I didn't have any of the required material, but had the colors (i think). How did I do?
I played around with a sort of Half Dead Hen Spey too; going to see how it does.
Pattick, the color scheme was very similar to your top fly, but mine had a longer hackle and the tail material on mine was hot-orange calf tail.
Your Half-Dead Hen Spey looks golden. Is that black-barred brown feather, tied down flat-wing style, a hen hackle?
Nicely done, that one. It looks like it is lashed together well enough to withstand the ravaging that it is certain to endure.
It's actually two tied over the top to form a triangle, and I'm pretty sure they're hen feathers (they came off a weird patch from a grab bag). I'm thinking that I might tie one up with some really long hackles for extra movement.
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I knew your pattern with the green butt looked familiar to me. Finally recalled the name: Female Coachman. . I tied up a few on sw and fw hooks with arctic fox wings.
I think the version I came across in Patricks fly pattern book called for a hackle tip wing.
It certainly does look like a Gray Hackle Yellow but those were primarily dry flies.... very old pattern. I've heard of a Dead Chicken but never bothered to look up the pattern because I didn't know any one who used them.
Kind'a simple. Does look like the wet version of a Gray Hackle Yellow tied with yellow chenille instead of yellow floss.
I tied something similar for the SRC in Oregon but with a pink body instead of yellow and it worked quite well in the tidewater area of a major coastal river.
So that's a Dead Chicken... now I know.
For the old ones on this site. I learned about the dead chicken from Ed Foss that would use it all the time and I thought someone told me he came up with the pattern. Could be wrong, but use it a lot for Cutthrout in the sound.
I got to thinking..........I've tied a Dead Chicken in many forms but left out a nymph.
Zen, A mid-sixties edition of Roy Patrick's Pacific Northwest Fly Patterns calls for no wing, Red hackle fiber tail, yellow chenille body, medium silver tinsel rib four turns, barred hackle 2 turns only
I'll check my book Preston. I may be thinking of the Chappie. I tied some of these patterns back in the early 70's when I bought the book.
A Chappie has an orange body .
I realize the colors are different. When I got the book I tied up some of the old patterns in it. It was so long ago I don't remember the recipes only the names. That's how I thought the Dead Chicken had a wing.
Also, my attempts at the flies, back in the early 70's, looked nothing like your versions.