Digital cameras again...

Discussion in 'Photography / Video' started by IveofIone, Aug 5, 2007.

  1. Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I agree with David. The newer digitals are way to complacated(sp) for us older types to understand. It would be nice if they wrote the instructions so one could understand them. With these newer digitals, you can take video with sound, stills with good background They have so many different shooting modes one just can't or don't understand all of it. Well at least I'don't. All I want to do is tske pictures of fish, if I ever catch any that is and you don't really need all those different shooting modes. But they are there.

    I tend to babble now and then and I guess that this is one of those times. :beathead: :beathead:

    Jim
  2. LD Active Member

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    Recently upgraded from and old Nikon coolpix (served us very well) to a Cannon A710 (more than you want to spend but a great camera. So I would a rec a Cannon in the $150 range, online you can get alot of camera fo the money. You can also find lots of reviews of specific camera's if you norrow it down to a few, I found that very helpful.
  3. kodiaksalmon Jeff B.

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    Ive, I've got a 1.3 mp Olympus that's about eight years old. It's a point and shoot, with a little zoom. I got a new Olympus 720 which is the waterproof/shockproof guy. My older one has sat idle the past many months. I've got the discs and cords and everything. Works fine, takes AA batteries. You won't win any photo contests with it, but for shooting and sharing pics, it's what I used it for. I use it as a back up now. Interested? Make me an offer, I'll go cheap. If not, cool.

    Jeff
  4. tkww Member

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    Canons make great point-n-shoots. Occasionally Sony, Fuji, others come up with good ones, but the most consistently-decent compact camera maker is Canon by a large margin, IMO. You won't go wrong with a canon is another way of saying that.

    If it's possible, try to hold one before you buy it. Some people will find a certain shape or button size or certain whatever just annoying as heck, and it doesn't bother the next person at all. So if you live anywhere near a decent store it's worth holding one first.

    I've always been a big fan of Li-Ion batteries because they didn't have the issues of NiMH rechargeables. But now-adays it seems like many Li-ions aren't that big and don't offer anything remarkable for battery life, so AAs become a legitimate option again. I do recommend these instead of the other NiMH rechargeables--and you're going to want rechargeables if you use the camera much at all!:

    http://www.amazon.com/Eneloop-Batte...6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1186430735&sr=8-2

    (I believe they make a two-battery/charger kit too if your camera were to only use two batteries.)

    Ordering from B&H isn't a bad idea, but be warned that they're not in the business of helping you make a decision. (IOW, know what you want before you call, or better yet just order online.). Many people order from Adorama as well. I bought my pentax optio WP through Buy.com, and once I got their weekly emails onto my spam list, all went well. ;-) I've also ordered from Beach Camera in NJ with good luck, and from Samy's in SoCal. Ordered a lot of computer stuff from Newegg. :thumb:

    Good reviews can be found at:

    http://www.dpreview.com
    http://www.dcresource.com
    http://www.imaging-resource.com

    I know the latter two have "buying guides" and "picks" lists, etc.
  5. Chris Scoones Administrator

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    Maybe next time you can note that up front before throwing it down on the back end. Just a suggestion. Regardless, thanks for the .05 on the subject.
  6. KerryS Ignored Member

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    Kinda off topic but sorta on topic.

    I just purchased a Nikon D40x. Not the kind of camera this thread is really about but I needed to say I love the thing. I have had a ton of fun shooting pics with this thing over the last few days. I bought a 2GB card for it and can shoot up to 500 pics with the 2GB card and an extended life battery. Pull the trigger and shoot away. Dump it on the 'puter and delete the bad shots, keep the good ones. The fact I can shoot as many pics as I can lets me compose, shoot, recompose and shoot more along with any other setting changes I think may make the shots better. I screw up a lot of shots but I get a lot more good shots to.

    Now I will go for a couple of new lenses.
  7. Kaari White Active Member

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    I was in a big box store yesterday and picked up a digital camera. I chose between a Canon and a Casio (ultra compact variety). The casio by far had the best feel and the interface was very intuitive/lots of great features. The cost was equal. So I bought the Casio on a whim...... I get home and the thing is DOA. Seriously. I've never had such a poor out of box experience.

    I'm going back tonight and buying a Canon A710. Bigger than what I wanted but after evaluating my options (SD1000 vs A710), I think the A710 is a nicer camera.
  8. Itchy Dog Some call me Kirk Werner

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    This makes me wonder if perhaps removing the battery and card and placing the camera in the fridge would work. It's what they tell you to do with cell phones, and I've found that to work. It dries gently by removing humidity. I haven't dropped my digital camera in the water. Yet.
  9. Josh dead in the water

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    Probably a good point. However, having credentials (or not) doesn't change the fact that what I said is true. Visiting either of the sites I mentioned would have quickly proven that.
  10. Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    If only this procedure worked for salt water :beathead:

  11. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    Are you assuming there are no professionals here? (then you are quite wrong). Been doing freelance since 1962. Don't even ask how much money I've spent on gear, to be quite honest I wouldn't know either since the old brain hangs sometimes. Anyway my .02 and I'd second canon

    Daryle
  12. IveofIone Active Member

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    Another noob question......Since it is a 200 mile round trip to the nearest camera store on $3.25 gas I'll just ask here to see what is meant by a 'high quality' memory disc. Are they referring to high capacity ie. 1-2 gigs or is there an actual difference in the quality of the media disc out there? I intend to get a 2 gig SD model but is there one that is clearly superior to the others? I see 2 gig models anywhere from 9$ to $42 and wonder what I should be shopping for.

    I hope to order later this week and am getting pumped about my first digital camera. Just as I was typing this a flock of turkeys was feeding right under the window where I sit. If I had the camera I could of taken a real closeup of their beady little eyes! And soon I hope to be sending pictures of spectacular fall colors to my less fortunate relatives that live in foliage challenged areas.

    Ive
  13. tkww Member

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    I would personally go with Lexar or Sandisk (Sandisk is my preference), though it seems that a lot of people use Kingston as well. I shoot mostly CF cards (and one SD card), and I've just never had a Sandisk card corrupt on me (can't say the same about lexar ;-). These things are solid-state devices...if they're made correctly they they should always work correctly, etc. So I'm not sure how the quailty factors in here, but I will say you don't want a card corrupting!

    Another thing that you pay for in a card is the "speed" of it--how fast it can read and write. Compacts can't write that fast, so it's not usually a big a deal for them (you don't need to buy the fastest card made, IOW). The gist is that you don't want your camera waiting on your card, you want it the other way around. Likewise, if you're transfering over a USB 2 or Firewire port, which can handle roughly 35-40 MB a second, a card that can only read at 10 MB is obviously going to be the bottleneck.

    You'll notice that sandisk has several series of cards, with each one having faster read and write speeds. (The extremem series migh be a little "tougher," made to take more physical abuse, but I don't know that for a fact.) I think right now Sandisk makes the Sandisk series, the Ultra-II, the Extreme III, IV, and IV LE. Maybe they still make the Extreme II. Anyway, I'd recommend the Ultra-II. It's got a roughly 10 MB read/write speed which is probably about as fast as your camera's going to be able to write. A high-speed reader (USB 2.0 or Firewire) would be able to read considerably faster than that, but that's waiting _after_ the shooting, not while you're trying to shoot.

    I recommend an external card reader. It's not necessary...but: 1) saves camera battery life considerably 2) keeps internal heat generation in the camera to a minimum 3) usually much faster than reading images from the camera. Some cameras don't even ship with USB 2.0, and most don't utililze it even when they're compatible (they'll work w/ 2.0, but they're not necessarily using 2.0 speeds!). I've had good luck with sandisk readers too.

    Sandisk has a new series of cards out with a built-in USB jack (called the + series), but I've no idea how well they do or don't work.

    I really don't work for sandisk. :D I've just had very good luck with their products. And to be honest my Lexar problems have been minimal. But for similar pricing, I'll take "no problems" over "minimal" any time....
  14. David Loy Senior Moment

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    Ive - Save yourself the trip. I've purchased 3 cameras on-line from Adorama and BHPhoto in the last 3 years. They're safe and will have a better price than even the box store. And it will arrive in less than a week with regular UPS.
    Oops, I guess the point of this discussion is that you need to fondle this item pre-purchase to decide which one you meld with best.
    Carry on.
  15. TheShadKing Will Fish For Food

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    For what it's worth, Fuji should be mentioned in the "name brands" category for exactly this reason ... they have the least noisy ISO performance due to the design of their sensors.

    This is important any time you have strong contrast across the image, e.g., sun highlights and areas in shade.
  16. robtpainter New Member

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    just purchased a nice Canon Powershot A550 a couple of weeks ago and love it. Got it with a case, small tripod, 1GB card, batteries and charger. $160 to my house in 3 days.