Does anyone here fish lakes with a switch rod?

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by Javaid Spey, Mar 22, 2014.

  1. Javaid Spey New Member

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    I am buying a switch rod shortly, a Redington Prospector 4109-4 with a Delta 5/6 reel. I currently own a redington dually 8136-4 that I use for steelhead and I want to bring a two hander to the lake. Does anybody have any suggestions on the best types of line to use? Maybe a Skagit short? Thanks
  2. bhudda heffe'

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    We did troll pass lake with our 8/9 spey rods once...go for it!
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  3. Javaid Spey New Member

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    That wouldn't be too much power?
  4. David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Depends on what you want to accomplish. I like scandi lines for dry fly fishing, and plane to use a switch on a couple of small, FF only lakes this year. I use the usual Skagit/Spey cast from the bank, and it solves problems with little or no back casting room and fish feeding a bit out of roll cast range.

    I would think there would be plenty of uses, trick would be finding a stick light enough for most trout to be much fun fighting on it. I have one with a 140-270 grain window and another that is 270-320. I'll be using the lighter one for trout.
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  5. Tom Martin Member

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    I build a 3/4 SH blank into a 10'6" switch. So its about a 2 switch. Use Ambush 4 (190@18') for line and love it. Great little trout rod. Plus its a great pontoon or tube rod. Extra length helps. Use 2h casts all the time, I can launch it a lot further than my SH, mainly because I sucked at double haul in SH and the switch lets me shoot more line that I could with a SH rod, especially in tight places, although out on the lake is no usually tight :), but from shore it can be nice.
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  6. Javaid Spey New Member

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    Thanks a lot guys I think I have a good idea of what lines to get I appreciate it
  7. Wayne Kohan fish-ician

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    I have a 5 wt switch, used it on lakes for tossing chiro rigs. It has a 7 wt Ambush line on it. Worked well enough but did not fit well in rod holders I had at the time. Heavier line than usual for a lake but the extra length gives the fish that much more torque to fight when you hook them.

    Wayne
  8. Javaid Spey New Member

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    Nice :) the main thing for me is that I don't have a boat so I'm looking to get more distance from the shore. that and 2 handed casting is a blast. I'll check put some Ambush lines and some scandis for dry flies.
  9. Patrick Gould Active Member

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    What blank did you use? I don't know how to do a two handed cast, mostly because I live in small water/ trout country. I would like to learn and a little rig like yours would probably be tons of fun on the eastern cascade rivers.
  10. Steve Saville Active Member

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    Periodically, there is a guy who sells blanks on e-bay. Last fall, I bought a 3 wt., 11 foot blank. It's an IM-6 vintage and I made the trip to Angler's Workshop for the components. The blank cost less than $20 and the components were near $80 so aside from the time to build the rod, I have less than a hundred bucks in it. I hope to get to it pretty quick as I want to use it for cutthroat on the rivers and as a trout two- hander. My biggest fear is that as soon as I cast it, it will break but then I haven't much invested.
  11. zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    Anglers Roost Enterprises sells a 3/4 rated 11' switch rod. I bought it for chronie fishing after an outing with Ira last year where he zinged a few casts out with his switch. I pair it with a DT6F line.
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  12. bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    I'm afraid to ask who you were with for this historic event ?
  13. zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    Kinda sounds like outriggers in use.
  14. Tom Martin Member

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    Got the blank from UTMOST (http://www.utmostenterprises.com/utmost_001.htm), but think it was a closeout. I also recommend Anglers Roost (ARE) he has some good inexpensive blanks for 11' switch rods.
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  15. Randall Clark Active Member

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    I picked up an A.R.E. 10' 3/4 rod (next time around, I'll be getting just the blank and build it myself, but I've never built a rod before, so I went this route, I think my complete rod was something like $100 and came with two tips), I added a 3" extension so I can two-hand it when necessary and with a 6wt Rio Salmon/Steelhead line (I cut the tip off) & it works great! I'm usually fish 6'6"-8' rods for trout (even on big moving water) so the extra length took a little bit of time to get used to (ok, not that long), but it makes a helluva chiro/nymph rod. I also like the nice relaxed action that the IM6 blank construction helps to provide...bottom line though, I get more distance with greater ease and better line control so from a pure performance standpoint, that's better...the only thing that's not as easy as with my shorter rods is landing fish with a longer rod.
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  16. fly-by Active Member

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    I agree that building one is the way to go. The blank is a good value, but the hardware on my A.R.E. switch has not held up. The fighting butt is made of a very thin gauge aluminum tube that stretched under the torque of two-handed casting and detached from the portion that threads into the reel seat. To answer the OPs question, Red's has a good summary of the characteristics of various switch lines on the market now. Let us know how you like the Prospector.
  17. Javaid Spey New Member

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    I will. Still waiting to pick it up but it should be soon. I'm deciding on either a short Skagit head or a switch chucker line to throw sink tips. Thanks for your input I'm looking forward to getting into switch

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  18. sopflyfisher Active Member

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    yes. i am a streamer guy, on that note the shorter lines are better for efficiency. opposite of the steelhead world where less stripping may benefit. the ambush is a good choice. i like a clear intro tip.
  19. bigtroutchaser Member

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    This has me thinking about making the transition to a 2 hander for lakes also. I am WAY into using my pontoon and am having a 'lil shoulder issue and the way I was casting my 13' 7wt Dec Hogan.....I got to thinking...hmmm, this could be a cool way to fish my streamers!

    I bought a ECHO 10', 8wt....but at 6 ounces it is a LOG by days end, and given I fish as much as I can......I am looking at options. REALLY like the longer length when lifting the line before casting!!

    My son Joe owns M3/Mountain Made Media and the main project last Fall was to catch a BIG Brown. Here is the end result. FISH ON!!
  20. 2kayaker New Member

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    12 foot ARE 3/4wt UHM blank $90 their 16 spey handle, high quality light guides, an overize single foot guide for tip top.Good succes wth Ambush 4 wt, cheaters, trout tips or 6wt rio steelhead line for long belly type casting.The rod is light enough to single hand when you want