Dolly Porn

Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by Roger Stephens, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. Roger Stephens

    Roger Stephens Active Member

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    Yesterday a fishing buddy and I fished an estuary that is open for catch and release of Dolly Varden. We hooked and landed a few fish but most Dolly Varden have seemed to have outmigrated to saltwater. There were still a few smolt(5 to 6 inches) also outmigrating. I don't know if they were salmon or Dolly Varden fry. My fishing buddy landed a large 6 lb. Dolly Varden(see photo).

    The smaller Dolly Varden is one which I landed. Note the sequin tube clouser minnow pattern in it's mouth in second photo. The versatility of this pattern allows you to angle a 10 mm sequin up, down, or to one side. In the photo the sequin was angled down like the lip of a bass plug as I wanted to have the clouser minnow go down deeper in pretty strong current. In slower current I angled the sequin to one side so that the pattern would wiggle 1 to 2 inches from side-to-side.

    Roger
     
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    Nice looking fish, Roger
     
  3. Go Fish

    Go Fish Language, its a virus

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    I'm pouring into the regs
    as I type. Nice fish....

    Dave
     
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    Nice fish! That first photo is awesome! Searun Dolly's and bulltrout are beautiful fish!
     
  5. Bob Jones

    Bob Jones Still truckless now farther away

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    greaat thinking Roger nice fish
     
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    Whhhhat? Just fish? Wrong Dolly site,I guess.......
     
  7. Go Fish

    Go Fish Language, its a virus

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  8. Norseman1

    Norseman1 Spey Fishing the Mighty Columbia......

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    Roger....please elaborate on the sequin used on the tube fly please. Close up pics would be great. We have very large Rainbows here called Gerrards, that run over 30lbs and they love big baitfish patterns.

    Thanks and best regards
     
  9. ak_powder_monkey

    ak_powder_monkey Proud to Be Alaskan

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    ummmmm thats large
     
  10. Norseman1

    Norseman1 Spey Fishing the Mighty Columbia......

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    The Gerrard is basically a landlocked Columbia River Steelhead that were trapped when they damned the Kootenay River leading out of Kootenay Lake. Some say there are fish well over 30 but you can never land them, they are just to tough and fast. We fish them with 5-6 inch polar bear bucktails trolled at anywhere from 2.7 to 4.8 miles an hour.
     
  11. Dale Dennis

    Dale Dennis Formally Double-D

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    Nice Dolly and a real bonus,
    Spring fishing off the beaches can be interesting with the variety of fish leaving the rivers. Last spring fishing off a north sound beach I released a dolly that we measured on my rod at 30”and estimated it at 9 lbs. No photos, left the camera and my partners cell in the truck and my cell phone was dead, just fond memories.
     
  12. Roger Stephens

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    The sequin which I use on the front of tube clouser minnow is a 10 mm. peral sequin that can be bought at craft or fabric stores(500 or so for about $2). The sequin is kept a 45 degree angle off to one side by use of a short section of hook sleeve material that is cut at a 45 degree angle. The sleeve is slipped onto the front of pattern and rotated off to one side. When the pattern is retrieved the sequin snugs up to the cut sleeve and wiggles the pattern 1 t0 2 inches from side-to-side. With a sequin on the front the pattern, it has both side-to-side wiggle and jigging action that seems to make it even more effective than a standard clouser minnow.

    Do a search on WFF using "modified clouser minnow pattern", this post will give you much more detailed information such as : materials list, tying instructions, how to fish the pattern, and photo. You could use different materials than I used if you want a bigger/bulker pattern. I like to use a 3 to 4 inch length pattern when fishing on Puget Sound.

    Hope that this will help you out!

    Roger
     
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    My fishing buddy and I were looking for sea-run cutthroat and happened upon the Dolly Varden which was a bonus. The 9 lb Dolly Varden must have been a load if you were using an 6 wt. rod or even an 8 wt. rod. What a thrill and nice fish which will always provide you a good memory!

    Roger
     
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    Norseman1 Spey Fishing the Mighty Columbia......

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    Thanks so much Roger....Ralfish supplied a link to your post showing the sleeve and sequin....just when I thought I had seen it all. Brilliant. I am going to try that on some of my Gerrard Rainbow patterns for Kootenay lake.

    Regards
    Paul
     
  15. Roger Stephens

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    Paul:

    The pattern does tend to spin sometimes in current or if retrieved quickly. I don't think that is bad since it might look like an injured or disorientated fish ready to be an easy meal. Advantages of being able to rotate the front sleeve are: (1) angling the 45 degree cut down will cause the pattern to go deeper like a lipped bass plug (2) angling the 45 degree cut up will cause the pattern to be driven up to the water surface. If current is strong and fish are near the bottom, I have angled the cut down and had good success in getting it to go deeper down to the fish. When a floating line is used and the angle is up, quick/rapid retrieve will pop the pattern up to the water surface which can be useful in shallow water or if fish are actively feeding/driving baitfish up to the water surface.

    It should be pretty easy to make bigger "sequins" if you are using big baitfish patterns. Some old time steelheader use to put "sequins" on the leader in front of the eye of the hook. I have not heard of them still doing it.

    Roger
     
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    Got to love those bull trout (aka Dollies when the fly rod is in hand)!!

    Bull trout are a great adjunct to our sea-run cutthroat and I'm constantly torn as to which I prefer though if pushed for one last day at either it would be a day of cutthroat fishing during Indian summer day on a North Sound river. At other times of the year the bulls might get the nod.

    DD -
    Congrats on a very nice bull. I'm always surprised how infrequently such fish are caught. Snorkel surveys in the Skagit basin found that such fish were often 1 to 2% of the pre-spwan staging population yet we rarely hear of such fish being caught. Behavorially they seem to be much more like lagre browns than cutthroat. Your success with that fish shold be taking as a testimony to both your pattern and presentation.

    Tight lines
    Curt
     
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    That is one of the most unique takes on flies I think I've ever seen. BRAVO!
     
  18. stewart dee

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    Nice work!
     
  19. Dale Dennis

    Dale Dennis Formally Double-D

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    Thank you Curt, I’ve always valued your insight regarding our anadromos speices.
    With the success being had in the Salt during spring and summer I still look forward to those Indian summer days on the river as you do, just two different ball games to enjoy.
     
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    Very nice description of how to fish the fly.
    Thanks