Ray, et. al. Yeah, I was not advocating the dragging chain system, simply describing it. I have seen it done in WA, but mostly from canoes, and not since the early 80's...I think the San Juan shuffle has been largely dismissed as a wading technique, too. The Chain Mop system sounds cool, I may try that one if I feel I need to go to a heavier anchor, my welder is broke. The disadvantage my prong thing is it does jam on occasion in boulders, but like one poster said, pulling over it and using the buoyancy of the boat usually solves that issue. Lots of builders on the web, in addition to Hyde, have anchor parts...and you can build your own.