I got a chance to work with one of the masters a couple weeks back, and will be working with him again tomorrow through Sunday. But learned alot from Cee Dub from the Dutch Oven cooking show. His books are pretty good too if you want a source of recipes (and some good stories). Funny seeing Chris Johnson's post. Sounds like verbatim what Cee Dub would say. LOL. If it smells done, it's done, if it smells burnt, it's burnt. And the dump cake Chris mentioned is alot like Cee Dubs (but it's a standard dump cake like most peoples). I was practicing with Camp Chef's new domes. They work pretty well actually. Great for those "no fire" areas. But did a dump cake to experiment more with them. Was having a problem with my domes, and thankfully had my Camp Chef rep show up and help me (and Cee Dub) out using the domes (I got to see Cee Dub learn a new trick, was pretty cool).