Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Kenneth Henderson, May 6, 2009.
this was the first fly i ever tied, today 5-6. what do you think of it?
Hell of a nice fly, especially being your first! Sure there are a few things that could be improved, but definitely, we'll focus on the fact that it's the first you've tied. Wish my first fly looked half that good
Great fly for your first. The following is only for instructional purposes - your hackle is tied in by the butt at the back resulting in smaller fibers toward the front. Usually when tying woolly buggers/woolly worms tie the hackle in by the tip to reverse the profile.
then how do i tie it off and whip finish it? or do i start with the tip at the rear of the fly and work to the butt of the hackel?
Hendo, looking good. Like Rob said, tie the tips in at the rear near the bend wehre you want the hackle to originate. Wrap it forward, just like you did and tie it off at the head, just like you did. The tapering affect will be nice. Good looking bug. Keep tying them like that and Brian will be working hard to keep up with you.
Now about that missing SRC report...
thinks for the tips on making my flies better. any other good patterns (colors) that this will work with?
ill get on that report after i clean up the house... to much stuff to talk about it right now.
Pretty damn good for your first fly... mine was some yarn wrapped around a bait hook, held on with glue-stick from my school pencil box. LOL (and I still have the fly!)
The guys are right about wrapping the hackle.
If you want to take that fly to the next level, get some marabou and tie it in as a tail, and you have a wooly bugger (which I prefer to the wooly worm, as the marabou adds natural movement).
Way to go!
ya ill have to go get some marabou and try it out. does it matter if its the same color or how should it be matched for olive and for black?
You'll find some basic colors are always favorites, but you will also find followers in many different colors. One I got in a fly swap was a tri color tail and it might be the best bugger I've used. Experiment and have a blast. Some with tails only, others tails and hackle, more with tails hackle and overwing, a bit of flash, bead head, cone head, body weight, weightless, wire ribbed...oh the combinations are endless.
It's a very good first fly. My first fly brought fish to the surface but could never hook one to save its life.
I can add a few pointers that took me years to learn and may speed up your learning curve. If you notice, your tail has rotated off the top of the hook to the side when you wound your chenille. Make sure you really bind that tightly to the top of the hook or add a drop of Zap a Gap to secure its location. You may have already done this, but chenille is easier to tie on if you strip away the fibers and tie in the strings to the hook before wrapping. Do the same thing at the end. Watch so you don't leave a gap on the far side of the hook when you first wind the chenille. I like that you didn't crowd the eye of the hook. You can clip those stray hackle fibers for photos in the future and nobody will know. Nice job.
The hackle method I prefer to use is to tie the butt end of the hackle in behind the eye and then wrap the hackle backwards to the bend Keeping the thread behind the eye of the hook. I then lock in the hackle with a the rib wrapped forward and tie down the rib in front and build the head.
i like that. ill try to tie the hackel in forward the come back with a wire rib.then tie that down at the eye. any one know of any pretty easy flies that i could whip up to add to a good trout collection? if you could post a picture too ( i like to have something to reference to). thanks again for all the positive feed back
If you have long hackles consider tying in at the front, wrap to the rear and then counterwrap it back forward. Norm Norlander uses this method on his rotary Nor-vise and I've tried it. The fly does not tend to spin so much and twist and kink leaders. There are many videos on youtube about tying on the nor-vise that might be fun and informative.
if i were to tie marabou as the tail how far should it stick out? i have dark and light colors of marabou.
A good rule of thumb is to tie the tail as long as the hook shank. But you will find yourself adjusting this for certain fisheries and fish. A long tail can give you some short strikes but a longer tail also has more movement.
ok ill try that and post to see what the peps think of it.
here i tried a few of the tips. tell me what you think.
those are good! id probably shorten the tails up a bit, especially if your fishing lakes. all the stalkers seem to hit the flies with short strikes. this cause you to miss many. otherwise its really good. especially with the hackle.
if your gonna fish streams and rivers id try and tie up some pheasant tail nymphs. they arnt very hard. all you need is pheasant tail, and if you dont have peacock herl, than you can substitue it with black dubbing or ice dubbing. but if your gonna fish lakes, tie up some black cronomids. all you need for that is a beedhead, scud hook, black tying thread(which would be used to make the body), and tinsel or copper wire to secure the thread and for design.
but if your gonna fish lakes, i prefer weighted streamers over any other fly. usually beadhead wooly buggers
I think the length on the black and purple is right about how I try to tie mine. The brown may be a bit long, but there is no reason to think that those flies won't get your line streched. Are you going to sit at the tying vise and your computer for all your time off or are you going to fish?
gone fishing i think its a nice day out. try to go here on base and try my new flies. ill take pics and post with the flies and the set up i got. ty ed. well off to fish i go...