Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by wyofly, Jan 15, 2013.
What patterns use the small fish sculls?
Since the skulls are somewhat "recent" on the market there are no defined patterns, but I would use them for smaller (mini) sculpins or to lightly weight a larger sculpin pattern. Might even look good on a muddler with the spun deer hair trimmed to match the shape of the skull.
Well, sculpins do start out kind'a small. I'm using the small size to tie small sculpins.
There appear to be two heads, one is identified as a sculpin and the other looks like a trout.
Oh, excuse me. There are two styles... one is a Fish Skull the other is the Sculpin Helmet. They are completely different. I've been tying with the helmets so I guess I have those on my mind.
I also use the Skulls and tie small streamers with the heads. The advantage is you have the choice of making the hook point ride up or down depending on how you install the Skull.
This was tied with a medium size so I would have no problem finding a use for the small size.
The larger ones look heavy!!
I have been using both for near a couple of years now.
The Sculpin Heads are heavy on the bottom so you can run hook up (like Dumbbell eyes) They are a chuck and duck.
The fish Skulls are weighted on one side so again you can run with hook up. Like a cone head but so much more. as with both, you tie the fly THEN put the head on so you can get a real snug fit. big plus
That last photo is hilarious! The Fish Skulls are not that heavy. They are mostly hollow and I'm not exactly sure what the metal is but they are much lighter than I thought they'd be. Sure, they add weight but probably not as much as lead dumbbell eyes.
These were all tied with medium size Skulls. I haven't tried using the large size because they are LARGE. I'll mess around with the small size sometime this summer.
The Fish Skulls are light...like a cone...like I wrote. The Sculpin Heads on the other hand are more like lead Dumbbell eye.
As for the picture, what can I say... it is what I do. Displays help when I do a show.
Sorry, Blue, I missed that. You are absolutely correct.
(I need to get props for my photos )
No worries. One of the really cool features of the Fish Skull is that the dang thing will serve as a keel and keep our streamer swimming true with the hook down or with the hook in the up position.
That's true... and they look cool! ...that's the best part.
BTW, considering the colors I used with my patterns, any guesses at what fish I planned to target with the flies....
That's right... carp.
Never bought the Blue. Not sure why as Blue is a killer color that trout love. Nice ties!
In one of the fishing magazine they have an article about coloring the heads with markers. Like brown trout or spots. Pretty cool. Also glitter nail polish.
On another site, one of the members paints the heads as you mentioned and adds spots... it's far and above my painting skills or aspirations!
By next year, Hareline will probably start selling heads with spots so I'll wait.
BTW: the guys at Hareline are looking for photos of patterns that use their materials to post on their Facebook page. If you're a member of Facebook and would like photos of your patterns that use Hareline materials posted on their page, go to their page and give them a shout.
Thanks one and all. I'l get some and experiment.
https://www.google.com/search?q=flies using fish skulls&hl=en&tbo=d&rlz=1G1TSNACENUS400&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=xtf3UIf-IeyA0AG9vYCACw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1301&bih=656#hl=en&tbo=d&rlz=1G1TSNACENUS400&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=fish skulls fly patterns&oq=fish skulls&gs_l=img.1.1.0j0i24l5j0i10i24.41746.41746.0.443126.96.36.199.0.0.0.140.140.0j1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.6MWheyDRU5A&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41018144,d.dmQ&fp=4415f15e4710c04d&biw=1301&bih=656
You can make your own.
Wrap wire onto a hook. Shape it with smooth face needle nose pliers. Soak it with CA glue. Glue on some eyes
I have a bunch of the large ones. I use them for big flies - 3" to 6" for tropical fish like Dorado, Pargo, etc and I will try them this year for Ling Cod and Tiger Muskie.. You do have to be careful not to hit your rod with them while casting. It could be disastrous.
The original question was what patterns use the small fish sculls?
I stand by my statement that there are no defined patterns. People are still experimenting with them to see what kind of flies that work can be created. What I saw in the link you provided were skulls put on a lot of different flies whether they looked or fished well to show the potential uses of the skulls.