Greatest steelheader ever a Californian?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by bananafish, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. bananafish New Member

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    New to the forum. Hi everybody. Must admit this movie I heard about has a killer site and the trailer looks good. But greatest steelheader ever from California, are you kidding me?:hmmm:

    Anybody ever heard of this Bill Schaadt?
  2. Chris Bellows The Thought Train

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    chapter 33 - steelhead fly fishing - trey combs
  3. ChrisC Member

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    FWIW, read Angler's Coast by Russell Chatham as well as some of Tom McGuane's pieces.

    That said, does it really matter one way or the other?
  4. ak_powder_monkey Proud to Be Alaskan

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    wait I'm from Alaska not California ;)
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  5. troutingham Member

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    That's awesome. Yeah dude the best steelhead fisherman can be anywhere there's steelhead and there were a lot of steelhead back then. If You're passionate enough your going to be good at anything you love. Geez the best King Crab fisherman are from Seattle not Alaska.

    Doesn't matter where you're from people will surprise you. Hey there may even be a African American president one day.....oh wait.... there is. Point is, anything is possible broseph.
  6. shawn k Member

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    I can attest to Bill Schaadt being the best fisherman I have ever seen. I grew up On the Russian River and fished alongside him on several occasions. During the 50's and 60' the Russian river was the place to be on the west coast during the winter . It s sad to see what the wineries,dams and development have done to that river.
    I reccommend getting ahold of the Anglers coast BY Russ Chatham, it is a great read.
  7. KerryS Ignored Member

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    I thought Stupinski was the greatest steelheader ever.
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  8. Panhandle Active Member

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    Uhhhhhm, you're forgetting about a little guy named.... JIM TEENEY! :D
  9. bananafish New Member

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    I hear you on Russell Chatham. I googled an article he wrote, "The World's Best" focuses on Schaadt. pretty intense.

    I think he's the guy in the movie trailer who says something along the lines of "he was the best fisherman that ever lived."

    Heard about the Angler's Coast. Have to check it out. Good to see Chatham will be in the movie.
  10. shotgunner Anywhere ~ Anytime

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    :thumb::rofl: Theres no such thing as bad publicity!
  11. inland Active Member

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    Nothing like trying to drum up interest through a little controversy, eh banana?

  12. Teal New Member

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    Angler's Coast by Russell Chatham is a great book and I loved to see this film. Its amazing how much destruction has taken place on the coast.
  13. bananafish New Member

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    banana's are slippery.
  14. Hal Eckert Member

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    Yes one of the greatest, but to say the greatest I don't know there are many others to be considered.

  15. Rob Ast Active Member

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    For a run-down on a lot of old-time greats (including Schaadt) pick up "Fly-fishing pioneers & legends of the Northwest" by Jack Berryman. It's an expanded collection of the "Pioneers & Legends" series from Northwest Fly Fishing magazine, has some great stuff in it.
  16. Bob Triggs Your Preferred Olympic Peninsula Fly Fishing Guide

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    It is no accident that many older anglers on the west coast still speak of Bill Schaadt in reverent tones. Read about him, See for yourself. Jack Berryman told me that one thing he learned about Bill Schaadt was that "He lived to fish".

    Russel Chatham's writings on Bill Schaadt in his "Angler's Coast" are an eye opener to what it takes to catch Chinook and Steelhead on a fly in coastal rivers. Especially on the steep Olympic Peninsula.

    As an aside; Another great Russell Chatham essay is entitled "Winter Steelhead", and is in a collection of his works titled "Dark Waters". It is still one of the better winter steelhead fishing technique essays I have ever seen.
  17. Jeremy Floyd fly fishing my way through life

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    Well I think he is...
  18. Salmo_g Active Member

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    By what metric does one measure the "best" or "greatest" steelheader? Number of steelhead caught? Caught per unit of time? Does the metric assume all steelhead are equal? Is the metric the most steelhead greater than some threshold weight? If it's about numbers or weight, a useful metric would also include equation parameters to cover number of fish in the river, or average weight of fish in a given river. A 20 pound steelhead caught in CA should carry more "weight" than a 20 pound steelhead caught in northern BC, etc.

    Personally I think the variables that add up to greatness are too numerous and well, variable, to meaningfully label anybody the greatest steelheader from anywhere.

    BTW, from what I've read about him, Schaadt was a heckuva fisherman.

  19. HauntedByWaters Active Member

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    I think I am the best steelheader ever because I always bring enough whiskey for everybody and too much for myself.
  20. Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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    That's a good line.

    Go Sox,