How large of a chironomid do you tie

Discussion in 'Patterns' started by Grayone, May 8, 2014.

  1. Grayone

    Grayone Fishin' to the end, Oc.P

    and have success with?
     
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  2. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

    Size 8
     
  3. Grayone

    Grayone Fishin' to the end, Oc.P

    Thanks for the quick reply....On what hook?
     
  4. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

    Tiemco 2302 or equivalent
     
  5. GAT

    GAT Active Member

    8 here too. Mann Lake. No fancy curved shank required. Just a 2X long wet fly hook.
     
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  6. Grayone

    Grayone Fishin' to the end, Oc.P

    Thanks fellas!
     
  7. triploidjunkie

    triploidjunkie Active Member

    Size eight bomber!
     
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  8. McNasty

    McNasty Canyon Lurker

    usually 8-12 though i have em tied down to 20's.
     
  9. golfman44

    golfman44 Coho Queen

    Big fly big fish small fly all fish
     
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  10. Brandon4455

    Brandon4455 Bobber Down!

    don't tie anything larger than a #12, very rarely will i have a #10 in my box. smallest i tie is a #16.
     
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  11. Irafly

    Irafly Active Member

    I do have some 8s, for very specific times. When fish are keyed in on bombers, they tend to not be shy and there are days where watching your indicator isn't as important as holding onto your rod.
     
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  12. GAT

    GAT Active Member

    I think you guys mean "buzzers" not "bombers" :)

    The vast majority of midge emerger patterns I use are on the smallish size. I'd say sizes 16-20 is the norm. The only stillwater where I use a size 8 is at Mann. I have no idea why the midges are so large over there.
     
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  13. Teenage Entomologist

    Teenage Entomologist Gotta love the pteronarcys.


    High Desert lakes have an unusual amount of minerals that can support large trout and many insect species. That's what I have come to realize.
     
  14. GAT

    GAT Active Member

    Nahhhh.

    I think the real reason is due to the discovery of uranium in the Steens Mountains near Mann. Obviously residue from the uranium has leaked into the lake and caused the bugs to mutate into an abnormally large size... the radiation effect :)
     
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  15. Teenage Entomologist

    Teenage Entomologist Gotta love the pteronarcys.

    Alkalinity is also an important factor.

    Some weird things come to mind when radiation/ harmful materials combine with trout. The double-jaw effect:)
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  16. Jack Devlin

    Jack Devlin Active Member

    I've always believed the in adage "Big flies, big fish". I use these on a secret lake where the flies are real big and the fish are in scale.
    Jack:)
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  17. Blue

    Blue Active Member

    I usually use a 200R in a #12 or #14. I have tied them on Scud hooks too and again #12. Rivers I like #16.
    Very sporting there Jack...BARBLESS.
     
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  18. Freestone

    Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

    Jack , that is awesome!
     
  19. Brandon4455

    Brandon4455 Bobber Down!

    200r is a great shaped hook but way to thin of a hook for fish over 18 inches imo.

    i used them at diamond lake when my normal hooks were out of stock and had a 22 inch fish bend it bad. and had the next one bend on a 17 inch fish. daiichi 1760 or tfs 2305 is a way better hook that wont bend out on you cause they are 2x strong .




    i caught this bull trout on a #14 tfs 2305 and the hook wasn't bent even slightly
    , wheras im almost certain an 200r would bend bad, or even break on this fish. i like them for tying nymph patterns for rivers where you are less likely to encounter trout or char of this size.


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  20. Blue

    Blue Active Member


    VERY nice. I have not had one straighten yet. Thanks for the heads up.
    Lately I have been using N201 from Allen Fly Fishing.