ignorance is no excuse

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  1. nwtroutguy

    nwtroutguy The Tug Is The Drug

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    Now that the topic of src vs coho has been beaten to a pulp, the bottom line is very clear. Anybody with half a brain knows that the geography for src is different than for coho and so are the hook sizes. If there is any doubt, call WFG and report them because they are stretching the rules and deserve and swift kick in the ass for being the dumbass that they are. There will always be those people that ruin the resources for the rest of us. Like I said, ignorance is no excuse so read the rules and the rest of us that do follow the rules and will help enforce them.
     
  2. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    I understand the intent of your post, but don't agree with your assumptions regarding src and coho habitat.
    There are certain beaches that produce good catches of both src's and coho, all on size 6 hooks.
     
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    Hooker Banned or Parked

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    yes there are, but please dont tell you you are fishing for cutts at PnP, or the outside of indian island or a number of other spots. Yes they do overlap, but if you want to stretch the rules, aleast be smart about it.
     
  4. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Hooker,
    I don't stretch the rules if that is what you might be implying.
    Once MA 9 opens on the 16th, I hope the only thing getting stretched is my line and hopefully from something larger then a src. :D

    Just an FYI, I've been seeing some nice fish in MA 10.
     
  5. Go Fish

    Go Fish Language, its a virus

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    The rules need to be changed.....
    I will not fish for SRC's in waters that are closed to salmon,
    however the rules allow me to do so.
    David
     
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    Hooker Banned or Parked

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    If you wont fish for cutts in waters closed to salmon, you are missing a great opportunity. The rules dont need to be changed, the people walking the line should show a little class and not target salmon out of season(which will lead to the laws being changed)
    Its all about respecting the intent of the law and the fish.
     
  7. Go Fish

    Go Fish Language, its a virus

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    Hooker, I don't fish for SRC's in closed salmon waters because
    I have many more options in the South Sound (out my front door).
    I also don't do it because I think it's not kosher.
    David
     
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    Hooker Banned or Parked

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    I;ve got no problem with your POV David. In fact i commend you for it and wish others felt the same way. For many people though it is not realistic to only fish cutts when salmon is open. MAs' 9, 10 and 12 would have a very small window of opportunity to fish cutts compared to what they have now. We might be going that way anyways but it is possible to fish cutts and not catch/target many salmon.
     
  9. Go Fish

    Go Fish Language, its a virus

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    Thanks Hooker, I'll see ya on the beach.... David
     
  10. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Dave,
    Why waste your time with all those small, poor fighting searuns in front of your house? :rofl:
    I mean that 50 foot walk to the beach has got to be a killer.

    The big boys should be home any time now!
     
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    Small hand in the air question.

    "SRC?"

    Not registering what that stands for.

    fae
     
  12. Hooker

    Hooker Banned or Parked

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    Sea-Run Cutthroat = SRC
     
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    Go Fish Language, its a virus

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    I'm putting a fridge on the beach to keep the beer cold.:beer1:
     
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    How do you do that? I haven't learned that trick of having my fly be specific to one predator species of several that may inhabit the same environment and area and are feeding on the same baitfish . . .
     
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    This topic will be null and void in 9 hours and 44 minutes.

    Happy salmon fishing.
     
  16. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm just new and clueless, so I must be a poacher to go where several guide (books) and guides (humans) and maps indicate are good for sea run cutthroat trout in my neighborhood to save gas. Freaking dumbass clueless newbie, but I don't go to PNP with an intent to catch SRC just like I don't go to CBA to catch Chinook. There are chances to catch each at both places, but the guides (books and humans) don't suggest that it would be productive.

    And I'm not telling where in my part of the world CBA is, I like that I can fish there alone almost any time any day.
     
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    Guess I only have half a brain then. I am new to fly fishing in the salt. I do know that some of the patterns I got from Puget Sound Fly Co would catch Silver's as well as SRCs (i.e. Clouser). However I am such a rookie that I don't know for sure what sizes will work or not for just SRCs and Silvers. Also until the last few thread about this popped up I didn't know much about what is SRC habitat and what is not.

    Lets not assume that everyone is a dumbass that doesn't know these kinds of things. I agree that being ignorant of the rules is not an excuse. However understanding the rules governing a wide area but not understanding the geographical features or where the fish would be in that area doesn't automatically someone is up to no good.

    Closed minded statements such as yours are not very encouraging for beginners who are trying to learn.
     
  18. Hooker

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    Richard- Dont be a dumbass. You and I both know that you can target cutthroat and avoid the majority of the salmon. If you want to fish PNP you are not trying to avoid salmon, nor catch cutthroat. Just like you said, while salmon fishing you happened into cutts.
    fly isnt specific, location is, you CAN target cutts in areas open to salmon and not have much bycatch.
     
  19. Denny

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    I'm not being a dumbass; it's a simple question to your comment " . . . but it is possible to fish cutts and not catch/target many salmon."

    How? You say it can be done; instead of resorting to name calling, share with us how to do it.
     
  20. Ed Call

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    Well, now I'm gonna get a jab in myself:

    Is it Hooker like dances around poles and stands on a corner?
    or
    Is it Hooker like you are so darn good that you know some super secret way of communicating with the fish in season and can catch only that which you covet?

    Your evidence supported response is highly anticipated, especially since you have now reverted to calling Richard, a senior member, a dumbass. I for one have been lurking on this site for a few months before ever posting and I must say I have read an awful lot by Richard and his responses are informative and presented in a very credible fashion. I have also recently reviewd a few of yours since I'm now your poaching target clueless newbie that doesn't know crap. I'm leaning toward listening to Richard.

    Who is the dumbass now?
     

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