illegal float plane coho fishing?

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  1. Jonathan Tachell

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    Its come to my attention that a few individuals are advertising float plane trips to fly fish for Coho. I'm pretty sure this is illegal especially if you do not have a salmon charter license!
     
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    Are you fucking serious? Tell your dumbass buddies at the next cca meeting to fuck off for me
     
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    I think you're talking about this:
    https://www.facebook.com/Orvis.Bellevue
     
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    Coming soon! Orvis float plane guided flounder expeditions
     
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    I know for a fact Ira would be all over this! ;)

     
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    Jonathan Tachell stated:
    Its come to my attention that a few individuals are advertising float plane trips to fly fish for Coho. I'm pretty sure this is illegal especially if you do not have a salmon charter license!

    Jonathan, serious question about your post. Now that it has come to your attention that there are float plane trips to fish saltwater beaches... You say that you are pretty sure that this is illegal especially if you don't have a salmon charter license. Is it illegal? Is it especially illegal. Is this type of trip categorized by WDFW as a charter? Are the individuals leading these trip unlicensed guides? Your post is not clear as to what you are saying, leading me to ask a few more questions to establish your intent, the accuracy of your post's words and perhaps understand better what point you are trying to make. Thanks in advance for clarifying some of the words you've put before our internet forum membership, I think many of us may be waiting for your update answers. I know I am.
     
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    Haha. That was a quick 180. Way to drum up business.
     
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    Read the regulations in regards to guiding for salmon in saltwater. They can be found on the WDFW website. I am typing this on my phone and am not going to go copy and paste it. Bottom line is you can not guide for salmon in saltwater without a salmon charter license which would require quite the financial investment considering they have not been up for purchase from the state in quite some time and have to be purchased or leased from an individual who still has a charter license grand fathered in. If this is the case then more power to the individuals for their idea and motivation. However, I have looked into guiding for salmon in the salt and its pretty much impossible now a days unless your willing to invest a ton of money!
     
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    A Salmon Charter*license is required if you accept a fee to take a person fishing for salmon, food fish or shellfish in Marine Areas 1 through 13 (including 2-1 Willapa Bay, 2-2 Grays Harbor, 8-1 and 8-2), Lake Washington, or the Columbia River downstream of the Longview Bridge.
     
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    Huh?​
     
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    Good thing you didn't let me pay for gas when we hit the Pinks last summer.
     
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    even if a salmon charter license was not necessary for walk in guides (no boats, although seaplanes are considered a vessel at times), you would need a food fish guide license just like they have game fish licenses to guide for cutthroat. neither guide currently has a food fish license according to wdfw.

    where's the self-righteous bullshit now?
     
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    They could clear this up by simply chiming in. It would end all the speculation.
     
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    This is a great idea. I hope they either clear this up or at least recognize that they have made a mistake and admit it. If they are legit I think it would go a long way to helping re-support them as upstanding figures on the board. If they are not legit I also hope that it doesn't embarrass or infuriate them to the point of no longer contributing to the forum.
     
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    Per the WDFW website you must have a salmon charter license to accept a fee in return for taking someone salmon fishing in saltwater, period!
     
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    Fixed that for you.
     
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    so you're saying a salmon charter license isn't necessary? would a beach guide still need a guide license specific to salmon to target salmon?

    as i've said, even if a charter license isn't required, a food fish license would be. neither guide advertising salmon trips currently has even a food fish license according to WDFW.
     
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    http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/commercial/charter_guides.html

    The 1st heading reads: "Licensing Requirements for Charter Boats and Fishing Guides" Reading further: "This document describes WDFW license requirements for guides and charter boats."

    Seems clear enough to me.

    I do agree with you that a Food Fish License does seem to be required when guiding for salmon - in fresh water or salt water.

    Guides, what's the story?
     
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    A "charter boat" is a vessel from which persons may, for a fee, fish for salmon in marine areas, Lake Washington, or that part of the Columbia River below the bridge at Longview. When you go out on a charter boat, you are usually part of an unassociated group of anglers that made reservations for that day. In certain cases, if you have enough anglers, you can reserve all the spots on the boat. In some parts of the country, a charter boat may be referred to as a “head boat” or “party boat.”
    I don't think that people will be fishing from the plane.
     
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