Liars! Who do you trust?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by G-spot4u, Sep 27, 2013.

  1. Jeff Sturm Member

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  2. Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    Accuweather may be toward the bottom on their accuracy around here. Start doing side by side comparisons over a period of time, let me know which one works out better for you.

    And I'm fairly certain that the meteorological website has nothing to do with radical political activist groups by the same name.
  3. Dipnet aka Tim Hartman

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    When I first read this I thought "how does being high while driving help him in weather forecasting?" ;)
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  4. Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    When I was a grad student at the UW in the 80's, one of my best friends was a grad student in Geophysics, which shared building space with Atmospheric Sciences in the Johnson Hall Annex. On the top floor they had all of the best available real-time weather data coming in from many sources, including radar, satellite feeds, ground weather stations, ocean bouys, etc. Every week they would have a betting pool to try to predict the weather for the coming weekend, with several parameters to predict (temp, rain, wind, etc.). These guys were professors and Ph.D. students and real data whores for such stuff and they still had a tremendous amount of variation in their forecasts.

    Models and data are better today than they were the, but it is still really hard to predict weather with much precision more than about 24 hours out.

    D
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  5. freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    Dammit... I obviously need to sharpen my hooks ;). I started using accuweather some years back and it seems as right and wrong as the rest. I think most of them steal info from NOAA anyway.
  6. Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    You might be right about NOAA
  7. wadin' boot Donny, you're out of your element...

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    I read the national weather service "forecast discussion" , Cliff Mass, and Jeff Masters' wunderblog on wunderground. The latter seldom talks about pacific nw weather, but grooves on hurricanes, tornados and other massive storms. His coverage of Sandy for instance was phenomenal; current postings on climate change are very good.
  8. cabezon Sculpin Enterprises

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    Along those line, in one of my favorite movies, LA Story, Steve Martin plays a TV weatherman to prerecords the weekend forecast "because he just has too much to do on the weekend to come in." Of course, a storm comes in and he loses his job.
    Steve
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  9. Preston Active Member

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    Well, it's somewhat better than "the good old days", before satellites, when we knew a storm was coming when it hit the lightship at the mouth of the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

    If you can see Mt. Rainier it means it's going to rain; if you can't, it's already raining.
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  10. Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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    Seems to me that the PNW has to be the easiest place to be a weatherman. The weather tomorrow is most likely to be the same as today. During the course of a day the weather here changes less than any place that I have lived. We have little to no sever weather of any type. Very little snow, hard rain, lighting, hail etc. Honestly this is the mildest place in the US that I have been weather wise.

    Go Sox,
    cds
  11. Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Not really that bad of a weekend weather wise.
    With the right clothing, it was pretty comfortable.
    1 for 4 on coho without a lot of folks around.
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  12. jeff bandy Make my day

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    How would it have been if you caught nothing? ;-)
  13. Bob Triggs Your Preferred Olympic Peninsula Fly Fishing Guide

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  14. Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    It would have still been better then sitting at home watching it rain ;)
    SF
  15. G-spot4u Active Member

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  16. Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    G,
    I was fishing the salt in MA 10.
    SF
  17. G-spot4u Active Member

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  18. Stew McLeod aka BigMac

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    I have been told they release some past the diversion very year.

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  20. Bob Triggs Your Preferred Olympic Peninsula Fly Fishing Guide

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    In his most recent blog entry Dr Mass has shared some information on the government shutdown and the impacts that this is already having on weather and climate forecasting, especially concerning marine forecasts. Many of the coastal ocean buoys are going offline, in part due to a lack of funding in recent years, and because of the shutdown on spending now. This has caused a problem in the verification of some forecasts, as in this recent storm we had last weekend. This has serious implications for mariners at sea, winter ocean fishermen, and any one of us who depends upon forecasting accuracy to manage their working days. Read Here: http://cliffmass.blogspot.com