Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by G-spot4u, Sep 27, 2013.
Being something of a nerd, I enjoy his blog a lot. I also recommend his book--interesting read.
Accuweather may be toward the bottom on their accuracy around here. Start doing side by side comparisons over a period of time, let me know which one works out better for you.
And I'm fairly certain that the meteorological website has nothing to do with radical political activist groups by the same name.
When I first read this I thought "how does being high while driving help him in weather forecasting?"
When I was a grad student at the UW in the 80's, one of my best friends was a grad student in Geophysics, which shared building space with Atmospheric Sciences in the Johnson Hall Annex. On the top floor they had all of the best available real-time weather data coming in from many sources, including radar, satellite feeds, ground weather stations, ocean bouys, etc. Every week they would have a betting pool to try to predict the weather for the coming weekend, with several parameters to predict (temp, rain, wind, etc.). These guys were professors and Ph.D. students and real data whores for such stuff and they still had a tremendous amount of variation in their forecasts.
Models and data are better today than they were the, but it is still really hard to predict weather with much precision more than about 24 hours out.
Dammit... I obviously need to sharpen my hooks . I started using accuweather some years back and it seems as right and wrong as the rest. I think most of them steal info from NOAA anyway.
You might be right about NOAA
I read the national weather service "forecast discussion" , Cliff Mass, and Jeff Masters' wunderblog on wunderground. The latter seldom talks about pacific nw weather, but grooves on hurricanes, tornados and other massive storms. His coverage of Sandy for instance was phenomenal; current postings on climate change are very good.
Along those line, in one of my favorite movies, LA Story, Steve Martin plays a TV weatherman to prerecords the weekend forecast "because he just has too much to do on the weekend to come in." Of course, a storm comes in and he loses his job.
Well, it's somewhat better than "the good old days", before satellites, when we knew a storm was coming when it hit the lightship at the mouth of the Strait of Juan de Fuca.
If you can see Mt. Rainier it means it's going to rain; if you can't, it's already raining.
Seems to me that the PNW has to be the easiest place to be a weatherman. The weather tomorrow is most likely to be the same as today. During the course of a day the weather here changes less than any place that I have lived. We have little to no sever weather of any type. Very little snow, hard rain, lighting, hail etc. Honestly this is the mildest place in the US that I have been weather wise.
Not really that bad of a weekend weather wise.
With the right clothing, it was pretty comfortable.
1 for 4 on coho without a lot of folks around.
How would it have been if you caught nothing? ;-)
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It would have still been better then sitting at home watching it rain
That's cool! Care to share what waters you were in? I took my boy to the Issaquah Hatchery - there are tons of big kings pushing 30 lbs. stacked up there. They were launching themselves up the artificial waterfall in a futile, but worthy attempt to reach farther upstream. I have never seen one make it over, but I think there must be a few that make it each season.
I was fishing the salt in MA 10.
All this input has been most helpful, enlightening and entertaining, but I think you nailed the forecasting question on the head, Kent. The weather forecast from KUOW on Tuesday called the storm just right and I think they get their info from KING. The NWS forecast did not catch up until Thursday or Friday. I am going to start referring to the local TV forecasters for local weather. For anything outside Greater Seattle, I will probably keep using Intellicast and NWS just because I am used to them and they are generally close enough for my needs.
Perhaps this board could have a fundraiser inviting all the local weather forecasters for a cocktail and dinner party of comedy and story-telling.
Thanks to everyone who posted. This is a great community.
I have been told they release some past the diversion very year.
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Yes, I heard the same, but I have never gone upstream to explore. I am not sure how much access there is upstream and I believe it's closed to fishing, except possibly for those under 16 years old during certain months of the year. To my eye, the kings are the best looking salmon.
In his most recent blog entry Dr Mass has shared some information on the government shutdown and the impacts that this is already having on weather and climate forecasting, especially concerning marine forecasts. Many of the coastal ocean buoys are going offline, in part due to a lack of funding in recent years, and because of the shutdown on spending now. This has caused a problem in the verification of some forecasts, as in this recent storm we had last weekend. This has serious implications for mariners at sea, winter ocean fishermen, and any one of us who depends upon forecasting accuracy to manage their working days. Read Here: http://cliffmass.blogspot.com