Lifting wild fish

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Clarki, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. Clarki

    Clarki I'd rather be reading water

  2. Jamie Wilson

    Jamie Wilson Active Member

    Don't know - if you're fishing in a kill fishery - can you hold the fish out of the water??
    If that was a Snyder fish - then it is a hatchery fish - they clip a different fin
     
  3. Patrick Gould

    Patrick Gould Active Member

    I don't see anything in the rules about not lifting them out of the water in the rivers he mentions. Clarki, what page are you looking at?
     
  4. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

    Unless you know the date the photo was taken there is nothing that can be considered illegal. All of those pictures could have been taken before the rule of removing fish from water was implemented.
     
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  5. constructeur

    constructeur Active Member

  6. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

    Here it is straight from WDFW
    β€œIt is unlawful to totally remove salmon, steelhead, or Dolly Varden/Bull Trout from the water if it is unlawful to retain those fish, or if the angler subsequently releases the salmon, steelhead, Dolly Varden/Bull Trout.”
     
  7. Freestone

    Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

    Any steelhead that will be released (even if legal to kill) must be kept in the water. This applies to both wild and hatchery steelhead on all waters.
     
  8. Patrick Gould

    Patrick Gould Active Member

    Thanks Chris. I eventually found that passage in the rules pamphlet. It's frustrating that it's listed under the fish handling section and not in the special rules for freshwater Steelhead.
     
  9. Clarki

    Clarki I'd rather be reading water

    Yes. Thanks for the clarification, Chris.
     
  10. kamishak steve

    kamishak steve Active Member

    <i guess its not illegal. <in those rivers you are still allowed to kill wild steelhead for some asinine reason.
     
  11. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

    I don't know about that one, there are lots of guides out there and if I ever did want to pay someone to put me into fish I wouldn't pick the guy with the dry hero shots of native fish. I guess that doesn't matter to most of the clients out there looking to pay their way to catching steel. I would much rather go with someone thats a little more respectful of the wild stock.
     
  12. gearhead

    gearhead Active Member

    i agree lifting a wildfish out of the water for a quick picture is certainly disrespectful, not nearly as much of course as ripping a fish from its place in a pool or tailwater, stressing it to high heaven, and playing it twice as long as need be...jus sayin':)
     
  13. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

    At least it has oxygen when in the water;)
     
  14. Jamie Wilson

    Jamie Wilson Active Member

    Kinda like the oxygen I have right after a 200 meter all out sprint
     
  15. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

    exactly.
     
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  16. daveypetey

    daveypetey Active Member

    I am interested to know the data behind the law. Anyone have a link to the state or university study that resulted in the passage of the law? It seems that the caloric expendature of catching the fish would be MUCH, MUCH more detrimental to the length of time the fish can successfully spawn than 20-30 seconds out of the water. I know I will get flammed for this observation, but I work in a data supported field and cannot find (google) any legitimate papers/studies to support this law. I am neither pro nor con on the law, but I am strongly against legislation that is fanned by emotion and no solid, well documented factual basis.
     
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  17. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/f92-129#.UOm50rY1bhE
     
  18. daveypetey

    daveypetey Active Member

    AWESOME. Thanks for the article. The abstract is interesting. Chris do you have a membership to the journal? Could you send me the full PDF? What was the n for the study? Any other abnormalities in the methods? I would love to send this out to friends.
     
  19. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

    i just did a quick google search... there's a ton of info on the study out there. here it is though

    LINK
     
  20. Jergens

    Jergens AKA Joe Willauer

    Iagree and also wouldn't hire a guide from a discount craigslist ad.
     

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