MA 9 this morning

Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by Nick Clayton, Aug 22, 2012.

  1. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    Slow for me this morning. Fished 4:30-9:30. Couple tugs, but nothing to speak of. Fish were all around in close when I first got on the water, but couldn't get any players. Saw quite a few fish beached, and seveal by the fly guys. Nice to meet you Bill. Stopped in at Peninsula Outfitters for some leader and flies, and gonna be back out this evening. I'm bound to get one to stick one of these times!
     
  2. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    Headed out straight after work and hit the beach around 5 pm. A slight breeze but manageable and very few people. Fished for the first couple hours with nothing happening for me. Gear guys were picking up a fish now and then. After some time, Mtskibum16 showed up and I fished next to this fellow yard-bird for the rest of the night. Nice to meet you Matt. Around 7 or so I started hooking up. As is my pattern lately I hooked a good fish in front of me long enough to feel a couple head shakes and see him splash before he spit the hook. Ugh. 15 minutes later, same thing. Hit, pump pump splash, gone. UGH!!! This is getting friggin ridiculous. I have tried normal hooks, stinger hooks, tubes.... Nothing is sticking! My fiance had met me on the beach this evening and after finishing a long beach walk was sitting on a log behind me enjoying the show, but frustrated at the lack of dinner on the beach! Baitfish were jumping all around us most of the evening, and fish were showing around is with some frequency. Another 15-20 minutes go by and I get another solid strike followed by several head shakes and a splash....wait for it.....there he goes...... what??? A run? Low and behold this fish was hooked solid. My fiance had her camera phone at the ready and quickly turned on the camcorder and filmed the entire thing. I was nervous as hell fighting this fish, as I have lost a good 12-15 fish this week, and when I finally slid him up on the beach I let out a hell of relief. The #6 stinger hook was absolutely buried in the corner of his jaw. This fish was going nowhere.

    I showed off my prize to my fiance, then quickly returned to the water. 15 minutes later I was back to my old self as I had another solid hook up, followed by a spit hook. This one didn't sting quite as bad. That was it for me for the evening. Fished till just before dark and called it a night. Matt was nice enough to loan me his knife, as I realized I left mine at home. Great night. Over all the gear guys easily landed a dozen fish throughout the night. They were definitely on the bite. Lots of baitfish working all around us pretty much all evening. Can't wait to hit it again tomorrow.
     

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  3. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

    Nick,
    Are you using size 6 octopus stingers?
     
  4. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    This particular one was, yeah
     
  5. toadthedry

    toadthedry Member

    Nick,
    Congrats on getting the bites. Thats the best part anyway. Try this to keep them on. After you cast, put the rod but and reel under your arm pit. Then retrieve the fly with two hands alternating right and left. You do not necessarily have to retrieve super fast this way, you can vary your retrieve, add pauses etc just like when doing a one handed strip. When you feel a bite, keep stripping. Keep stripping even when the fish starts thrashing on the surface as coho often do shortly after feeling the hook. Only raise the rod tip when the fish starts to run. I don't know what strength tippet you are using but you may want to use something moderately strong with this method such as 15 lb or higher. If you try it let me know if it helps you as it has for me. One other thing to try is a bigger hook. Hope this helps.
    Mike
     
  6. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

    Have you considered using bigger stinger hooks?
    There just isn't a lot of gap on a size 6 octopus to bury the hook. Since aggressively feeding coho aren't leader or hook shy, you might give that a try. Especially now that we are getting into prime toad time. Personally I've lost to many fish on small hooks so I mainly use size 2's and 1's stingers now.
    Good luck out there.
    SF
     
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  7. Blake Harmon

    Blake Harmon Active Member

    good on you guys with the reports. Ill be up there fri-mon chasing them around on your beaches. Black mariners hat and a grin on my face. Love hitting the salt, don't get a ton of opportunity!
     
  8. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    Thanks for the suggestions, Toad. I generally don't like to strip two handed, as I find that a super fast retrieve hasn't been the ticket for me, and I don't really like the feel of fishing that way....However if it would lead to more conistent solid hook ups then I'm down to try anything!


     
  9. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    Yeah I have used some bigger hooks, I just ran out. I didn't do a very good job of preparing for this salmon season, as I was working so much so I didn't get to stock up on tying supplies for salt flies, so I've been stuck with what I'm able to buy locally and what I had on hand. I have been having my best luck with clousers tied stinger style, and I had a couple tied with bigger hooks but I've dinged them up on rocks and such so I've been stuck using the smaller ones as that's all they had at the local shop.

    I would go stock up on some supplies to tie my own, but I'm just not willing to give up my beach time right now! lol Is it possible to change a stinger hook without retying the whole fly? I'm prettty new to this business.


     
  10. Josh Smestad

    Josh Smestad aka Mtnwkr

    You should be able to change the hook no problem.. It's just looped in there.
     
  11. mtskibum16

    mtskibum16 Active Member

    Nice work on the fish Nick - nice to meet you too. I only stayed a few mintues after you left. Nothing for me last night. A few shakers, a couple light hits, and one that nabbed my fly a few feet in front of me and bolted away but I never got a solid set and he spit the fly. Conditions are right though and a decent number of big fish cruising around.
     
  12. Jonathan Tachell

    Jonathan Tachell Active Member

    I agree with stonefish. I use #1 stinger hooks on all of my adult coho flies. Most flies tied for a stinger including the ones I tie have just a loop of braid sticking out and inch or so short of the tail of the fly so when the hook is looped on to the braid the stinger sits right about flush with the tail of the the fly to 1/2" in from the end of the fly. Try the bigger stingers and make sure they are razor sharp and you will land a lot more fish. Black #1 gamakatsu octopus hooks are my favorite and come ultra sharp, relativley cheap too.
     
  13. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    Nothing doing last night or this morning for me. Gonna take a break tonight to go stock up on some flies and look for new waders as mine are absolutely on their last leg. Cook up a nice salmon dinner, then get ready to hit it hard over the weekend!
     
  14. mtskibum16

    mtskibum16 Active Member

    Glad I didn't take off a half day to go out this morning. I'll be out ther tomorrow though. I've been very happy with my Redington Sonic Pro waders. Very good waders for the price and they sell them at Peninsula.

    SF and Jonathan: Thanks for the tips on stingers. I have been using #4s as that's what I had. swapped one out last night for a #2 but never got any takers to try it out.
     
  15. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    Yeah I've heard nothing but good things about the Sonic Pros. I'm gonna swing into Peninsula tonight and hopefully walk out with a pair of them. I'm heading to Gig Harbor first to see if they have a bigger selection of flies. I should just buy what I need to tie up a bunch for the weekend, but I'm not going to have a whole lot of time between now and then so I'll just go with what they have.
     
  16. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    Figured out how to swap the hooks. Also stopped by the fly shop and got everything I need to tie my own. Gonna get busy tonight.
     
  17. vanvgj1

    vanvgj1 Yak fisher

    Wish I'd read Jonathan's post before I went out at PNP yesterday morning. Got fishing about 6:45, Great morning and not too crowded on the beach....even less crowded off the beach in my kayak although there were a couple boats doing the drift from the Point with me - far less than I expected. There were clouds of bait there all morning until low slack.
    I had two good hits on this sort of herring imitation on a sinking line in about 50-90 ft of water. Couldn't get a good set on either one so after reading above I conclude the hook needs to be a bit farther back on this since the fly's a little over 4 inches long. But also, on these tubes which direction should you position the hook on the initial set up? I usually put it in the tube pointed up... in this case I had it down. Does it even make any difference?
    Thanks
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  18. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

    Greg,
    Hope you didn't take any incoming lead shots this morning from the beach anglers.....;)
    As far as hooks go, I always like point up. That is a pretty large, fully dressed pattern, so a larger stinger hook might help as well.
    Good luck out there.
    SF
     
  19. vanvgj1

    vanvgj1 Yak fisher

    Yeah - every once in a while the eddy would push me in too close... and someone would lob one at me to remind to get back out of there. Next ties on that fly will be a little sparser and I'll find a way to move the hook back - probably longer extension on the tube - and get a #1 - I think this was a #2 if I recall correctly. Thanks for the advice.
     
  20. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    I saw a guy in a yellow Yak when I was walking back to the truck yesterday morning. Looked like a fun morning for a cruise on the sound.