Marabou Strung Blood Quills

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by tahuyamg, Dec 29, 2007.

  1. tahuyamg tahuyamg

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    I'm trying to figure out if Marabou Strung Blood Quills are better for palmering or if I should go with extra select marabou for this. I'll be using on hooks as large as 1/0.
    Thanks-
    mark
  2. steve s Member

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    I prefer the blood quill marabou. The blood quill and extra select are very similar but you get more bang for your buck with the blood quill. I've also had quite a few of the extra select have thick stems which makes it difficult to palmer.

    Steve
  3. Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    I actually like the smaller marabou feathers for palmering, because the quill is more flexible. I simply use 2-3 feathers (or as many as you need on a bigger hook).
  4. TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    I just started using a dubbing loop. With the loop it doesn't matter how big the stem/quil is. I use two feathers at once on the loop. They look great, and I am tying them on a string----Moal Leech style.
  5. Big Tuna Member

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    Can you explain how you use a dubbing loop?
  6. TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    I'd have to take a few pics for you to "see" it.

    I take two marabou feathers, prepare them by cutting off the ugly bits toward the base, and then cut off about 1 inch from the top.

    Next, I cut all the feathers off of one side keeping the stem feathers and discarding the ones I just cut off--this makes them easier to handle when I put them in the loop.

    Next I put them (quils and feathers etc.) in the loop as close to the stem as possible.....do a few twists with the dubbing loop tool. This locks them in a little better and allows me to be able to cut the stems off.

    I then cut the stems off.

    I then spin the hell out of the dubbing loop tool, then I just wrap.



    Does that make sense? Maybe I should get some pics going, so you can see it a little better.


    Justin


    Edit.... Ok look at this tutorial, but envision Marabou instead of Rabbit....

    http://flyfishnw.com/content/view/97/60/
  7. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    Best idea I've heard all year, by all means post some photos if you get the time. Wonder how it would work with spey hackle?

    Daryle
  8. floydiology board to the new

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    Justin,
    Kinda like this? Its a cross between a skagit minnow and the ultimate moal/roid you linked to

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    Regards,
    John
  9. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    How do you cut them with a few twists?
  10. TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    Daryle,

    I put the marabou in the loop with stems still attached and only one side of feathers on the quill. (remember I'm using two feathers at a time)

    I twist the "LOOP" and not the marabou a few times. These twists in the loop hold the marabout in a little better while cutting. The twists are not necessar, but I do it.

    Does that help?
  11. TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    John,

    Looks good.

    I put the feathers in so the longer onces are toward the bottom. When I put two feathers in, it creates a little more "body" on the first few wraps, keep wrapping then the longer feathers go over those. This creates a nice little vortex of small and larger fethered ends all undulating all over the place.

    Justin
  12. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    If the feather is trapped inside the loop why doesn't it twist? Hey I'm just a dumb Swede, I know what you're saying just can't picture the feather not spinning in the loop.
  13. TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    It might twist. You just twist it a few times before you cut it, so when you cut it, it will stay in your loop.

    when you twist your dubbing loop tool a few times, you can do this with your right hand, and use your left hand to keep the feather from twisting.


    OK, I gotta get my camera out.
  14. TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    This is a version of a buddy/guide's fly- The Metal Detector. Marty Sheppard is the originator. The hook hangs out at about the end of the bucktail.

    step one- see no twist at base
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    step two-notice twists at base. See how I hold it with my left hand.
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    Step three--Cut--use your left hand and left finger to guide you along.
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    step four---Ahhh All spun and ready to wrap
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    Step five--All wrapped
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    Step six---OK, So I want the marabou to be smaller so it doesn't drown out the blue...So I put it real deep into the loop.
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    Step 7-Spun--Notice that thick chenille/bunny stuff in the middle. This is mixed with short and long stiff and soft pieces..Awesome stuff.
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    Step 8--Done
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  15. Flyborg Active Member

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    Justin,

    You rock! Great pictures and explanation, I'm going to have to try my hand at some now.
  16. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    OK, now I see, was thinking the feather would twist all around, You just made a great toot for the dumb swede. Thanks,

    Daryle
  17. TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    Jared, Thanks Man.... Glad I could show you something new. It is much easier than rabbit!

    No Prob Daryle. Pictures make it so much easier to learn from..at least for me.
  18. riseform Active Member

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    I like how those pictures demonstrate the different quality of marabou feathers you get on a string. The second piece (pink one) has a nice thin stem that I'd gladly just wrap, but the first piece (blue) has a useless thick stem that makes it a horrible feather to wrap. Your technique enables the use of a feather I'd otherwise discard to the bottom of the bag. Nice.
  19. slippery_whippet Member

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    Justin, Hey thank you a whole bunch for taking the time to post these pictures. I am so psych'ed to give this a try. This is way better info than what rock to stand on and which direction to cast etc. I think these types of flies might even work in ALL north sound S-rivers! :p
  20. Big Tuna Member

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    Thanks for taking the time to show us the step-by-step. That's very helpful.