McNeese Steelhead Black Doctor

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  1. Dave McNeese

    Dave McNeese One of the OLD guys

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    This is my new exhibition spey hook. I 've had this design rolling around in my head since my original Bartleet hook by Partridge in1979. It's finally made the way I intended. Hooks will be arriving in May. I'm working on building a website so they will be available there if you are interested.

    Looking forward to any comments you may have...

    Cheers,
    Dave McNeese
     
  2. steve s

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    That's a great looking hook Dave. I've been looking for a spey style hook with a longer shank that is not a blind eye. When you say exhibition hook, do you mean that these will be more for show than fishing? What sizes will you be offering? Looking forward to tying on them. Keep us posted.

    Steve
     
  3. halcyon

    halcyon Hallelujah, I'm a Bum!!!

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    Dave,
    What type of finish will these hooks have? Who will be making them for you? Am I correct in this being a return loop eye hook? Thanks.
     
  4. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    Very Nice Dave. Congratulations.
    Glad to see these in production the way you wanted them to be.
    The point looks round. No gutters. Is that just the photo or is that the actual shape?

    TC
     
  5. Daryle Holmstrom

    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    The enlarged photo is blurry, take more ,

    Daryle
     
  6. Dave McNeese

    Dave McNeese One of the OLD guys

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    The hook is designed to be fished and the wire is fine for the length, but very strong, and a hook that will show well yet land fish. I have tested the hook for the last several months and found it even stronger then I had hoped.

    It is designed with a very long ultra fine return eye, which is about the same size as a 4...but with a length 70% longer, it's small like no other hook made today..the very fine, small eye as you see is lower to provide better hooking and less chance of bending and pulling out. The eye is ground from mid-shank to give it a beautiful taper.

    The finish will be in Black. The first size available will be the 2.25" as in the photo. A few months later we will begin to add sizes all the way down to 1.5".

    I appreciate your input and questions. Thanks guys!

    Dave
     
  7. halcyon

    halcyon Hallelujah, I'm a Bum!!!

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    Dave,
    From the second photo the finish looks like black nickel not japanning. Are you going to use a more durable finish than japanning? Thanks.
     
  8. Dave McNeese

    Dave McNeese One of the OLD guys

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    halcyon
    These are sample hooks and the finish is Titanium color coat which I will not be using. The finish will be the same as the sample just in black Ti color..very hard and not the old jap. lacquer. New finishes have been developed in the last few years that are so darn hard, perfect for many H2O products, including now ..hooks.
    Dave
     
  9. Ron Eagle Elk

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    Dave,

    That is one elegant looking hook. Looking forward to getting my hands on some of those.

    REE
     
  10. halcyon

    halcyon Hallelujah, I'm a Bum!!!

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    Dave,
    Thanks for the information. I look forward to having a few in hand to check out.
     
  11. FT

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    Dave,

    Beautiful hook. Glad to see you are finally getting them made. I've been waiting more than 2 years now since we talked on the phone and you told me you were working on them. Are you having them made my Targus? Also, any chance of getting some 2.75" ir 3" ones made for larger dees?

    By the way, your Black Doctor shows you still have it when it comes to flies, it is a wonderful tie that as usual has the sweep of a fishing fly.
     
  12. Ronn Lucas

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    Sweet hook Dave!!!!!! Can't wait to see em up close and personal!:thumb:

    Happy Trails!
    Ronn
     
  13. Dave McNeese

    Dave McNeese One of the OLD guys

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    Steelhead Black Doctor Dressing

    Dressing the SBD.
    Tag:1/2" of fine flat silver tinsel, wrap back with 4 turns of fluor. orange floss..then forward 4 turns.
    Tail: G.P. crest, topped with 3 Indian Crow feathers.
    Butt: 2 turns fluor. red single strand yarn, topped with 3 Indian Crow feathers.
    Body: underbody wide flat silver tinsel.fine oval silver,wide flat silver for ribbing body of slim Black Seal.
    Hackle: body, Black saddle size 10 from second turn of tinsel, followed with one turn Teal ,(med) in photo or long. 2 turns of Fluor. Purple Spade Hackle. at this point I set the inner wing: G.P. tippets to hide butts.
    Throat: 2-3 turns Fluor. Blue Spade Hackle.
    Wing: bottom to top.. using Badger dry fly hackle dyed, size 14 hot orange, size 12 orange, size 10 Fluor. Purple
    Cheeks: J.C.
    Topping: G.P.
    Head: Red.
     
  14. Les Johnson

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    Dave,
    Will you be at the FFF Fly Tying Expo in Albany? I'd like to see the hooks.
    Cheers,
    Les Johnson
     
  15. Dave McNeese

    Dave McNeese One of the OLD guys

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    I will be at the expo Sat. morning until about 4:30, so I will see you and the others, too.
    Thanks
    Dave
     
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    Dave, do you have your website up at? or an email adress or adress i may see these hooks and order from?the link isnt up anymore
    Tight Wraps & Tight Lines
    Rick Wallace
    P.S. wish i could find one of them wonderfully beautiful reels that you made in a size to fit my gloomis trout spey.
     
  17. Dave McNeese

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    floydiology board to the new

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    Dave,
    I cant wait until I can get my hands on some of these esthetically pleasing hook design. Id dream of using one for my Sol duc tie for the expo spey plate. Congrats on getting exposition quality hook into production.
    Cheers!
    John P. Newbury
     

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