Fella's, can I make a point? I agree that the river is getting loved to death and it doesn't make me happy. However, take a look at the view count of this particular post. Our happy discussion here on the board has attracted close to 5,000 hits. Now a portion of those are regular board members following this thread but the majority are folks searching for information on the river. I am as guilty as the next guy for talking about this river on a public forum but maybe we need to take related subjects to a different thread that doesn't have the river name in the title and let this thread die and fall off the front page.