Montana's stream access law under fire!! Help is needed! No on HB309!

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  1. rick matney

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    We have a serious issue involving the 26 year old stream water rights law. It needs our attention as soon as possible. I Know this is WASHINGTON fly fishing but I am sure a lot of you fish in Montana and if not would like to, so this affects all of us Please take the time to write E-mails to the legeislature to help put a stop to this bill. Heres a link to look up representatives http://leg.mt.gov/css/find a legislator.asp This is Montana's version of serving Wild Steelhead so I am asking for everyones help in this matter.

    What you should send your representative on HB309:



    •The bill sponsor and supporters the Montana Farm Bureau and Montana Stockgrowers Association NEVER contacted anglers before this bill was introduced.

    •This bill is NOT necessary. It fixes nothing and will result in needless division and lawsuits. Montana's stream access law is clear, the public is not allowed to recreate on bona fide irrigation ditches nor do we want to.

    •Montana’s 26-year-old stream access law works just the way it is.

    •This bill is Anti-Small Business and will negatively impact thousands of jobs in the state of Montana and will lead to job loss not creation in what is already a difficult business climate.


    http://www.krtv.com/news/bill-defining-ditches-called-assault-on-montana-s-stream-access-/
     
  2. rick matney

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    The Link on the bottom is a news link regaurding the bill. Helps let you know whats going on. According to this bill the entire Bitteroot and Big hole rivers could be classified as a "ditch" and not be open to the public anymore. Hopefully this strikes a nerve with you guys.
     
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    UNBELIEVABLE!!!!:mad:
     
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    Rick
    Thanks for the heads up. You could do a favor for those of us not from Montana. We don't have a representative.

    So, for us out-of-staters, please do a little more research and tell us WHO we should send emails to so as to have the maximum impact from our efforts.

    Thanks.
     
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    bitterroot Love vintage graphite!

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    Editing this post since it already passed the house. Focus on the senate.
     
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    Larry Jent is the senate seat for my voting district of Gallatin county. Since it looks like it passed the house we need to focus energy on the senate. If you click the link I posted above and go to "current legislature" and then "senate roster by name" This will give you the list with links to thier offices and phone #. I am going to call or E-mail all of them. I suggest that you do the same. I am trying to find out which ones are the supporters of the bill to focus on them. Most of the supporters are republicans (very ironic since they are the ones that are usually very protectant of the sportsman laws historically) So again lets focus on the senate and if you don't want to take the time to do all of them I suggest the republicans for now untill I can get more information on which individual senators are supporters.

    Thanks guys
     
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    bitterroot Love vintage graphite!

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    Bob Lake & Jim Shockley are both from the Bitterroot Valley area and are Republicans. That would be a good place for folks to start.
     
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    MONTANA HOUSE
    62nd Legislative Session
    2011 Regular Session
    VOTE TABULATION

    DATE: February 10, 2011 SEQ. NO: 382
    TIME: 01:43 PM BILL NO: HB 309
    Agenda--Third Reading SPONSOR: Welborn, Jeffery



    Do Pass

    YEAS NAYS EXCUSED ABSENT
    57 43 0 0




    Y Ankney, Duane Y Flynn, Kelly N MacDonald, Margaret (Margie) Y Reichner, Scott
    N Arntzen, Elsie N Furey, Timothy N MacLaren, Gary N Reinhart, Michele
    Y Bangerter, Liz Y Gibson, Steve N Malek, Sue N Roberts, Don
    N Barrett, Dick Y Greef, Edward N McChesney, Bill Y Rosendale, Matthew
    Y Beck, Bill Y Hale, Alan N McClafferty, Edith (Edie) Y Salomon, Daniel
    N Belcourt, Tony N Hands, Betsy Y McGillvray, Tom N Sands, Diane
    Y Bennett, Gerald (Jerry) Y Hansen, Kris N McNally, Mary N Schmidt, Trudi
    N Bennett, Bryce Y Harris, Bill Y McNiven, Jonathan N Sesso, Jon
    Y Berry, Tom Y Hendrick, Gordon Y McNutt, Walter Y Skattum, Dan
    Y Blasdel, Mark N Hill, Ellie Boldman N Mehlhoff, Robert (Bob) Y Skees, Derek
    Y Blyton, Joanne N Hiner, Cynthia N Menahan, Mike Y Small, Sterling
    N Boland, Carlie Y Hollandsworth, Roy Y Milburn, Mike Y Smith, Frank
    Y Brodehl, Randy N Hollenbaugh, Galen Y Miller, Mike Y Smith, Cary
    N Burnett, Tom N Hoven, Brian N More, Michael (Mike) N Squires, Carolyn
    Y Clark, Christy Y Howard, David N Noonan, Pat Y Stahl, Wayne
    N Connell, Pat N Hunter, Chuck Y O'Hara, Jesse N Swanson, Kathy
    Y Cook, Rob Y Ingraham, Pat Y O'Neil, Jerry Y Taylor, Janna
    N Court, Virginia N Kary, Douglas (Doug) Y Osmundson, Ryan Y Vance, Gordon
    Y Cuffe, Mike Y Kennedy, Dan N Pease-Lopez, Carolyn Y Wagner, Bob
    N Driscoll, Robyn Y Kerns, Krayton Y Peterson, Ken Y Warburton, Wendy
    N Edmunds, Champ Y Klock, Harry N Phillips, Mike N Washburn, Ted
    Y Ehli, Ron Y Knox, James N Price, Jean Y Welborn, Jeffery
    Y Esp, John Y Knudsen, Austin Y Randall, Lee N Williams, Kathleen
    Y Evans, Lila Walter Y Lavin, Steve Y Read, Joe N Wilmer, Franke
    N Fitzpatrick, Steve Y Loney, Cleve Y Regier, Keith N Yates, Max

    Here's a list of the supporters from the representatives that voted yes on it.
     
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    Email sent to Lake. Shockley doesn't have an email address listed.
     
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    Thanks for the heads-up. I spend a lot of money and time fishing and hunting in Montana.

    Will express my concerns
     
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    Ok I have several guys on investigative duties to find out who in the senate will be supporting it. So untill tomorrow I won't have specific names. Since it has already passed the house we need to focus on the senate. SO AGAIN I am writing all of the senate especially the republicans. Stand by for further updates
     
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    Phone call if no E-mail leave a short detailed message if no answer
     
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    Thanks for the call to arms. I was notified by my TU chapter (Lewis & Clark) on Tuesday. Also from Public Waters & Land Association (PLWA). I sent an e-note to every single MT state legislator on Tuesday (except Rep. Wellburn, the dip-shit who authored the bill).

    Regrettably, I just got a response back from one of the Representatives that the bill passed 55-45.
    Not sure whether there is an opportunity to thwart it at the next level in the process or not, but will certainly re-issue letters if it will help.

    This is a bad piece of legislation that once again attempts to undermine Montana's Stream Access Laws. Montana, as most know, is one of only a few states that have clear public access to high-water mark on navigable streams -- truely a gem and part of Montana's heritage. 'Paid for politicians' are continuing to advance the agenda of private land owners who feel god's wonderful creations should be the exclusive domain of those who can afford them.

    I would encourage all WFF members who feel public access to streams should be protected, take the time to help derail this and future actions which undermine stream access laws.

    If we don't help do some of the heavy lifting, we'll loose.
     
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    Email sent to Jent and Lake...anyone else to contact?
     
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    Hey is there any chance of setting up a votervoice type deal? Give us a chance to click a couple buttons and they'll likely hear from a lot more people. Might be too late in the game though?
     
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    Thanks for posting this Rick. It is a horrible bill and there is hope the Gov will veto it if passed. I'll work on it this weekend. I know Shockley and will call him and insist that he vote for all Montanans and not for the few large landowners that we have been fighting for years.
     
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    JIM SHOCKLEY (R) SD 45. Address PO BOX 608. VICTOR, MT 59875-0608 (406)642-3817 (406)642-3817.
     
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    I'm running out the door but here are some links to the Montana Senate. Most Republican's need to be told that fisherfolks all over the world spend tons of cash in Montana BECAUSE Montana has the most reasonable access laws in the nation.
    2011 Montana Senate (sorted by Senate District)



    SD 01: Chas Vincent (R)
34 Paul Bunyan Lane
Libby, MT 59923


    293-3839 / Cvvincent@hotmail.com

    SD 02: Ryan Zinke (R)
409 West 2nd Street
Whitefish, MT 59937


    862-0823 / Ryanzinke@yahoo.com

    SD 03: Bruce Tutvedt (R)
2335 West Valley Drive
Kalispell, MT 59901


    257-9732 / Tutvedt@montanasky.us

    SD 04: Jon Sonju (R)
PO Box 2954
Kalispell, MT 59903


    270-7113 / Sonjumt@yahoo.com

    SD 05: Verdell Jackson (R)
555 Wagner Ln
Kalispell, MT 59901


    756-8344 / vjack@centurytel.net

    SD 06: Carmine Mowbray (R)
PO Box 1202
Polson, MT 59860


    883-4677 / clarity@cyberport.net

    SD 07: Greg Hinkle (R)
5 Gable Road
Thompson Falls, MT 59873


    827-4645 / ccwhi@blackfoot.net

    SD 08: Shannon Augare (D)
PO Box 2031
Browning, MT 59417


    450-0020 / Shannonjaugare@aol.com

    SD 09: Rick Ripley (R)
8920 Highway 200
Wolf Creek, MT 59648


    Ripleys@3rivers.net

    SD 10: Bradley Hamlett (D)
PO Box 49 
Cascade, MT 59421


    264-5885 / Wranglergallery@hotmail.com

    SD 11: Anders Blewett (D)
PO Box 2807
Great Falls, MT 59403


    231-8618 / Anders.blewett@gmail.com

    SD 12: Mitch Tropila (D)
PO Box 929
Great Falls, MT 59403


    899-3474 / tropila@mt.net

    SD 13: Edward Buttrey (R)
27 Granite Hill Lane
Great Falls, MT 59405


    250-5103 / ebuttrey@cteq.com

    SD 14: Llew Jones (R)
1102 4th Avenue South West
Conrad, MT 59425


    271-3104 / Lcjones@3rivers.net

    SD 15: Jim Peterson (R)
1250 Buffalo Canyon Road
Buffalo, MT 59418


    374-2277 / jpranch@ttc-cmc.net

    SD 16: Jonathan Windy Boy (D)
Box 269
Box Elder, MT 59521


    395-4718 / Windyboy_j@yahoo.com

    SD 17: Rowlie Hutton (R)
2 Lila Drive
Havre, MT 59501


    hutton4senate@yahoo.com

    SD 18: John Brenden (R)
PO Box 970
Scobey, MT 59263


    783-5394 / senatorbrenden@gmail.com

    SD 19: Donald Steinbeisser (R)
11918 County Road 348
Sidney, MT 59270


    433-2187 / Donstein@midrivers.com

    SD 20: Frederick Moore (R)
487 Signal Butte Road
Miles City, MT 59301


    234-3562 / elmoore@midrivers.com

    SD 21: Sharon Peregoy (D)
PO Box 211
Crow Agency, MT 59022


    639-2198 / apsaalookewoman@yahoo.com

    SD 22: Taylor Brown (R)
775 Squaw Creek Road
Huntley, MT 59037


    348-2070 / Taylor@northernbroadcasting.com

    SD 23: Alan Olson (R)
18 Halfbreed Creek Rd
Roundup, MT 59072


    323-3341 / Ajolson@midrivers.com

    SD 24: Kim Gillan (D)
750 Judicial Avenue
Billings, MT 59105


    248-6063 / Glonky@aol.com

    SD 25: Kendall Van Dyk (D)
PO Box 441
Billings, MT 59103


    690-1728 / Kendallvandyk@gmail.com

    SD 26: Lynda Moss (D)
552 Highland Park Drive
Billings, MT

    59102
252-7318 / Lyndamoss@imt.net

    SD 27: Gary Branae (D)
415 Yellowstone Avenue
Billings, MT 59101


    245-2127 / Garybranae@gmail.com

    SD 28: Jeff Essmann (R)
2101 Grand Ave #5
Billings, MT 59108


    259-8404 / Jeff@jeffessmann.com

    SD 29: Edward Walker (R)
4221 Rimrock Road
Billings, MT 59106


    697-6967 / ewalker@edwalker2010.com

    SD 30: Jason Priest (R)
PO Box 743
Red Lodge, MT 59068


    425-0674 / jason@priest2010.com

    SD 31: Ron Arthun (R)
285 Shields River Road
Wilsall, MT 59086


    578-2340 / ronarthun@gmail.com

    SD 32: Larry Jent (D)
506 East Babcock
Bozeman, MT 59715


    587-1210 / larry@imt.net

    SD 33: Bob Hawks (D)
703 West Koch Street
Bozeman, MT 59715


    587-1403 / R_hawks@imt.net

    SD 34: Joe Balyeat (R)
6909 Rising Eagle Road
Bozeman, MT 59715


    539-5547 / Joebalyeat@yahoo.com

    SD 35: Art Wittich (R)
3116 Sourdough Road
Bozeman, MT 59715


    585-7418 / art@wittich4senate.com

    SD 36: Debby Barrett (R)
18580 Highway 324
Dillon, MT 59725


    681-3177 / Grt3177@smtel.com

    SD 37: Steven Gallus (D)
2319 Harvard Avenue
Butte, MT 59701


    494-3914 / Steve.gallus@gmail.com

    SD 38: Jim Keane (D)
2131 Wall Street
Butte, MT 59701


    723-8378

    SD 39: Terry Murphy (R)
893 Boulder Cut Off Road
Cardwell, MT 59721


    285-6937 / murphter5@yahoo.com

    SD 40: Mary Caferro (D)
PO Box 1036
Helena, MT 59624


    443-4066 / Marycaferro@gmail.com

    SD 41: Christine Kaufmann (D)
PO Box 1566
Helena, MT 59624


    439-0256 / Kaufmann@mt.net

    SD 42: Dave Lewis (R)
5871 Collins Rd
Helena, MT 59602


    458-5511 / Davelewisd@aol.com

    SD 43: Gene Vuckovich (D)
1205 West Third Street
Anaconda, MT 59711


    563-2313 / genev@q.com

    SD 44: Bob Lake (R)
PO Box 2096
Hamilton, MT 59840


    363-4091 / Lakemill@montana.com

    SD 45: Jim Shockley (R)
PO Box 608
Victor, MT 59875


    642-6647

    SD 46: Carol Williams (D)
3533 Lincoln Hills Point
Missoula, MT 59802


    728-8735 / Cwilliams@montanadsl.net

    SD 47: Ron Erickson (D)
3250 Pattee Canyon Road
Missoula, MT 59803


    549-4671 / Nancron@aol.com

    SD 48: Tom Facey (D)
418 Plymouth
Missoula, MT 59801


    728-6814 / facey_tom@hotmail.com

    SD 49: Dave Wanzenried (D)
903 Sky Dr
Missoula, MT 59804


    543-2775 / daveew@gmail.com

    SD 50: Cliff Larsen (D)
8925 LaValle Creek Road
Missoula, MT 59808


    728-1601 / Cliff@larsenusa.com