More Fishing License/discovery Pass Confusion?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by dryflylarry, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. Brad Niemeyer Old School Member

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    This is absolutely ridiculous, who do I write to? My state reps?

    Can I ride my bike to the local stocker lake and fish without a Discover Pass?
    What about county parks where lake access and park access are muddled together, Do I need a Discover Pass to take my son to the playground?

    I'm willing to pay for the right to fish and If I have to pay for parking, well that's OK... But jerking us around is stupid.
  2. Scott Salzer previously micro brew

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    Thanks for correcting my mistake regarding the DP for WDFW access points.

    Go to your Senate & House members, they make the laws not the individual departments.

    MB
  3. Gary Thompson dirty dog

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    East Wenatchee, WA
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    I buy my lic. and I hang the dam, dam on the mirror and I don't remember to write down the #'s
    So who is checking? Nobody I've ever seen.
    Maybe that's why it's called a secret spot. Ya think?
  4. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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  5. flybill Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!

    So can I use my Good to Go pass to pay for the fine when I don't write my license plate on my other fucking passes? :mad:

    Btw, I've never written my license plate on my WDFW pass.. why start now? I only have one vehicle, and that won't change anytime soon... I may break down and get a fucking Discovery Pass, since Leland doesn't invite me fishing anymore... :rolleyes:
  6. KerryS Ignored Member

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    I was checked by a WDFW officer a week ago while shooting pictures by the Samish River. Funny, when he approached me, he laugh and said when he saw my truck he thought I was poaching. He then asked if I had a pass in the truck. I said yes and we talked for awhile. On his way back to his truck I watched to see if he looked for my pass. He did. He also showed me a couple of pictures of some beautiful wild steelhead caught from the Samish during a test fishery. The fish are there.
  7. dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    Yeah, but being disabled, this greedy State still requires you to pay a "discounted" fishing license and permits!! Now, that is B.S. !!!! When I first read that I was flabbergasted...
  8. Alex MacDonald Dr. of Doomology

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    YOu guys who, like me, are 62 or over, don't neglect the "senior" pass with the feds-it'll get you into all the BLM spots for free if it's a spot shared by WDFW, like Umtanum and Big Pine on the Yakima. I haven't checked Ringer yet, but it may work there as well, and it's $10/lifetime.
  9. Irafly Active Member

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    What should the solution be? I'm reading lots of gripes but limited suggestions on how to solve the core problem. Why do you think the state wanted to limit the number of vehicles per pass? Why do you think they created the pass in the first place?
  10. flybill Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!

    A pass that is good for whatever vehicle you're in! Even better would be one pass for outdoor activities. Or at least a discounted option for those of us that participate in multiple activities.

    The Discover Pass is another attempt to generate income for the State Parks.. they tried this before with a daily use fee, there was also an annual pass. At the time I lived in Issaquah, near that state park and just stopped using it. I wasn't the only one, as park use dropped dramatically... I'm sure the same will happen with this program...
  11. Olive bugger Active Member

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    My logic agrees with flybill. Rather than playing cute with the citizen's wallet, why don't they come clean and tell us that they are not capable of running the state at a break even part and that they need more money.
    In my world, when things get political or have political direction, they get
    convoluted and misdirected. Votes and reelections become more important issues.


    As for a solution, I would rather they issue ONE (1) pass, good at any State or National public access domain. The pass should have a single price, should be accepted at all of the facilities without exception and have a valid expiration date that is static for all concerns. After all, they have the same calendar and the year is still 365 days with the exception of Leap Year. The proceeds could be divided between all of the concerned agencies.
    That is my solution. I am not certain that politicians could grasp the concept, however.
  12. dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    Cutting the tax breaks for big oil companies (watch what Congress does...) and sending some of the money to the States could help parks and then we could fight the State to eliminate the Discover Pass! Finally, since 1920's, the royalties charged oil companies for drilling on public lands went up from 12.5% to 18.75%. Our state should get a chunk of that too! And, I don't know what the rates are on windpower on public lands, but you would think that should get a boost too. The State needs to hit the people using our public lands for commercial profits and put it back into the park solution.
  13. Brian Miller Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting Cutthwoat Twout

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    I got my Federal Access Pass as a DAV a few years ago at 55. Sometimes I wish I would have had to wait and pay the 10 bucks. The BLM sites I've stayed at give a 50% discount for the Pass.
  14. Brian Miller Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting Cutthwoat Twout

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    I got my Combination License with Columbia River Endorsement and a Discover Pass last night. I'll pay the cost of the DP for reasons i've mentioned previously, but THAT was sticker shock. I didn't notice it so much last year because I bought the license and pass separately. Regardless, at the end of a year the DP will have only cost me a couple of bucks a trip.

    As far as the single vehicle Discover Pass goes, if my son and fishing buddy can't stomach the DP, I'll drive but they can pony up for the gas, dinner and/or refreshments when we go Curtis Creekin'. I probably won't get an upgrade to include another vehicle if there's a cost involved.

    The single-car WDFW pass sucks, but I only have the SUV I use for fishing and a nice sports sedan that isn't. My son will buy a license so I'm covered if I borrow his rig in a pinch. I hope it gets fixed for all who use more than one vehicle for fishing though.
  15. IveofIone Active Member

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    I have been in Washington for 32 years but now the state government is as fucked up as the federal government. I would like to move to another state that is possibly warmer and drier and hopefully one where I didn't need to pack a bandolier of permits, passes, licences and a New York City phonebook sized synopsis to understand what I need where and when just to wet a line.

    Is there anything like that left in the US or should I be looking into becoming an expatriot? Maybe 66 years of fishing has been enough and I just need to give it up and become a bird watcher or meteorite hunter. Both would keep me out of the La-Z-Boy and in the outdoors. Just a thought but the idea of getting rid of a thousand pieces of fishing gear, boats etc and getting a pair of Swaroski binocs and a metal detector does have some appeal.

    I also wonder how many casual recreational fishermen who only go out a few times a year are going to just say: "Screw it-I'm doing something else". The ritual of taking the kids out for opening day is losing it's lustre when the threat of a $100 ticket is hanging over your head for not having the right colored pass on your dashboard. The fun just isn't there anymore.

    Ive
  16. Jim Wallace Smells like low tide

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    I'm just lucky that I have enough state parks nearby (that I frequent) so that it makes it well worth the cost to purchase the yearly pass.
    My work truck died, and I'm down to one vehicle. I'm stickin' with only one rig for a while, and maybe for good. I'm trying to reduce my expenses to the minimum in preparation for living on a fixed income.
    I've got three trailers now. I wish I could legally move one plate around on all three. Can't tow 'em all at once. Still, three trailers are much cheaper to own than one other vehicle.
    I need to start thinking about applying for "senior discounts." I found out that right now I qualify for reduced property taxes, and I'll be 62 in Sept. I am thinking that I'd better apply for these discounts before they try to take them away.
  17. Old Man Just an Old Man

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    Washington is all about take, take, take. Here in Montana, you license your Trailer, Camper, ATV, Motorcycle, or anything else one time only. Then it's good to go until you sell it or it falls apart. I got a License for my ATV 4 years ago. They are permanent for as long as you own them.

    Drivers license 8 years unless you are old like me. Then every 4 years.

    Man, I love no Sales tax.
  18. Jim Wallace Smells like low tide

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    Once I quit surfing, I'm going to walk inland carrying my surfboard until someone asks me, "Why the heck are you carrying that overly wide water ski?" Then I'll know I'm far enough from the ocean, and I hope to at least make Idaho.
    Only problem was the last time I said that (years ago, before I swore off cookies), i was coming back from a good surf skunking out on the Cape, and when we stopped at Ray's Last Chance for some cookies and gas, a Makah Indian looked at our boards on top of my rig and asked, "How was the water skiing?"

    I've got a feeling I'll never get out of here!
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  19. BDD Active Member

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    One of the reasons for the pass in the first place was to get the non-angling/hunting folks (license buyers) to start paying for their use on WDFW lands. If they wanted to bird watch, make out, or whatever, they needed to buy the pass to get on WDFW lands. In that regard, I'm glad they initiated the pass; it got the free-loaders to start paying their share.

    However, with the consolidation of Parks, DNR, and WDFW into the Discovery Pass, it has caused some confusion. On passes that I use a lot, (WDFW) I don't mind having a pass in each vehicle (you get extra when you buy the kids' fishing license) because the last thing I want to do is remember to grab it from one vehicle to the next before going fishing and I figure WDFW can use a little more money. And I have a hard enough time just keeping track of my fishing license. However, I don't like the idea of getting three Discovery Passes, three BLM Passes, three National Park Passes in addition to my standard WDFW pass that comes with the fishing license.

    I don't mind paying for outdoor recreating, but it does need to be revamped and simplified. That being said, I have often not written my license plate number on the pass itself. I figured if you are good enough to remember it and hang it in the window, that is good enough. I would think that before giving you a ticket, a WDFW Enforcement Officer would check your WILD Number with their handheld computer and confirm that I already bought multiple fishing licenses for me and my family and cut me some slack.
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  20. Krusty Active Member

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