Muskrat?

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  1. Jeff Dodd

    Jeff Dodd Active Member

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    I have quite a bit of Muskrat.... natural.

    Does anyone have a pattern they like that calls for muskrat? I need to use it or get rid of it.

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  2. Matt Baerwalde

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    Well there's an obscure old pattern called the "Adams" that uses the underfur with guard hairs picked out for the abdomen. ;) Leave the guard hairs in and it makes buggy nymph dubbing. Or cut the hide in strips if it's still flexible and it makes great zonker strips.

    Muskrat underfur is very fine and water resistant and makes a great dry fly dubbing.
     
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  3. floydiology

    floydiology board to the new

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    When I was a kid, I trapped a few muskrats and skinned them. I tied my favorite rocky mountain trout nymph I called the muskrat, basic partridge tail, muskrat dubbing and duck quill wing pad(Swisher Richards pattern from the book Selective Trout). Also you can tie a Fledermaus.
    Speaking of Fledermaus, I think I'll go tie up a few today.
     
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  4. ScottP

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    How about Polly Rosborough's Casual Dress? Only non-muskrat part is the ostrich herl on the front end.

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    Regards,
    Scott
     
  5. Jeff Dodd

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    Yes, I need to get some out and use it! A material I should've been using all along I see.

    Matt, I will hand a few skins off to you next time your are on the island.
     
  6. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    Do a search in this forum (Fly Tying) for Muskrat and you will find at least one previous discussion on muskrat and flies using muskrat.

    TC
     
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    Adams? Never heard of it. Must be something new.
     
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  8. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    I've heard there's a small group of fly tyers that eschew synthetics for fly bodies. For some quaint reason they prefer natural material.
     
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    Chad Lewis NEVER wonder what to do with your free time

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    I've never tied an Adams without it. Some things you just don't mess with.
     
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    Very nice! A classic.
     
  12. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    How very quaint that must be. Probably a bunch of old farts in tweed breeks and waistcoats.
    I generally use the new improved version of Syntho Flashy Fur marketed as Syntho Flashy Fur Extreme with extreme flash and proprietary UV properties.

    TC
     
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  13. floydiology

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    The more synthetics I get to play with the more I yearn for a good old fashioned natural fly. Perhaps I will wear my tweed coat and poly underwear.
     
  14. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    Tied "in hand" of course.
     
  15. Tom Bowden

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    You could try my "All Washington Emerger" (AWE), tied with materials from our State:

    Tail: Moose mane from Moose shot by my Brother-In-Law in a NE Washington permit hunt.
    Body: Muskrat trapped in the winter by a guy I met at Chopaka - pick out a bit.
    Rib: Copper wire purchased at McClendon Hardware :)
    Hackle: Hungarian Partridge I shot in Kittitas County - 2 turns

    Tom
     
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  16. Rick LaRiviere

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    Grey Nymph has been a very productive pattern for me in various waters across the country. I've also used muskrat in a personal variation of gold and silver ribbed Hare's Ear nymphs (with some guard hairs left in) that have also produced well.
     
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    Well there are a lot of patterns that use muskrat. I would recommend that you save one full skin for yourself and ditch the rest, I've been working on one skin for 40 years and it is still going strong.
     
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    hair hackle flies
     
  19. Dottiesdad

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    And also how about Polly's Muskrat nymph?

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    The one pictured here is not tied quite true to the original, but pretty close. Very effective pattern.
     
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    Hey, what is wrong with tweed breeks and waistcoats?

    Remember, drys, cast upstream to rising fish only!