NFO Scadden Outlaw Predator?

Discussion in 'Watercraft' started by MakoML, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. MakoML Trout Spooker

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    I am starting to get tired of hauling my 10' framed toon in and out of storage every time I want to run to the local lake and fish for a couple hours. So I have been thinking about one of the frameless toons / jumbo tubes. I had SFC for awhile but decided I wanted something bigger............... hence the 10' toon........ now I want something with decent size but light and fast to set-up and inflate etc.

    This NFO 2014 Predator looks almost perfect, I thought the Renegade was too big for what it was, and the Escape a bit short for my 6'4" frame. The Predator looks more what I might like. But I have yet to talk to anyone that has fished one let alone see one in person. I can't even find the pricing anywhere for it.

    Anyone care to share their hands-on info about this watercraft?
  2. Thomas Williams Habitual Line Stepper

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    That guy can't even keep up with his current models.
  3. Blue Active Member

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    Husband is 6'4 and 220. He used his all summer.
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    It is 8' long, 13lbs without add ons. It is heart valve material with several coatings. No skid plate like the Renegade, but light enough to pick up. Plastic D rings but more Nylon, you can twist them and they do not break.
    Comes with an apron, which is nice.
    Price, right now $999.
    http://www.northforkoutdoors.com/2013christmassale/2013christmassale.html
    On their website Thomas
    http://northforkoutdoors.com/home.html
  4. Thomas Williams Habitual Line Stepper

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    Looks pretty sweet.
  5. LCnSac Active Member

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    I have a Renegade, and would love to shed 16 lbs of weight. They are the same price. My concern would be the lack of skid plates on the bottom. I don't know how Scadden addresses this; maybe the material is tough enough to not need them. If these are proven over the next year I'll certainly trade my Rene in for this one. I do know my skid plates have plenty of evidence of sliding over some rocks in the river and at lake take outs and I'm glad they're there.
  6. Blue Active Member

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    All about lightening it up. More material such as skid plates means more weight. I have not had an issue with lack of. I do use a motor and battery. I come to shore motor first which allows me to remove the weight before pulling it ashore.
    We had ours all summer. Bought them in May.
  7. LCnSac Active Member

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    My concern would be hitting sharp rocks or dragging bottom in rivers. I'll look at it in January at ISE. Yours looks cool and I know you put it to a lot of use.
  8. LCnSac Active Member

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    Saw this and looked at it closely at ISE. The material looks very beefy. Dave had a local guy helping him and he said it has Kevlar in the material. I don't know.Two negatives. One, it is cheapened up with no skid plates (weight, I know) and plastic D-rings. Two, it's 8', not 9' and on top of the Renegade it looks small. I think this toon is better for stillwater than moving water.

    It's an awesome craft because of the weight. Temped to replace my SFC with one, same weight, better utility and a LOT more money too.
  9. Blue Active Member

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    I got a deal for you ;-)
  10. LCnSac Active Member

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    You always make me smile, woman. Let's hear it.
  11. Blue Active Member

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    I have a couple and selling one that "has" been used...twice.
  12. Greg Armstrong Active Member

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    Blue,
    If he's not interested in it, please let me know because I may be.
    I have a Renegade already and may want to get this smaller, lighter version for my wife.
    Thanks.
  13. LCnSac Active Member

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    I'm waiting to see how proud she is of the old worn out cast off;-) Chances are highly probable she'll be very fair but I'm probably not a buyer. I'm more focused on finding a 17' re-powered Montauk right now.
  14. Greg Armstrong Active Member

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    Joni,
    PM sent.
  15. LCnSac Active Member

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    I was fishing with a guy with an Escape that weighs 24# (the boat, not the guy;-) and it sure seemed light compared to my Renegade. Long story short I found a Predator locally and picked it up today. As usual, Blue was very helpful and answered some pre-sale questions.

    The Predator is not 7'6" nor is the Renegade 9', but the difference is about 14" in length, mostly taken from the rear deck, and about 5" in width. The tubes are the same size.

    It has been cheapened up a bit, but the whole line has. The new bags aren't as nice as the old ones, and I'm not sure about the plastic D rings. BUT….it is 15 lbs. lighter than the Renegade and a LOT less cumbersome. I haven't used it yet, but I'm sure it will be fine. I'd feel fine on any flat water and Class II rivers judging from the size. I never thought I'd sell the Renegade, but this deal was too good to resist and I think it will be just great. Here they are, side by side:

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  16. Blue Active Member

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    I miss the mess on the old bags, but the new ones seem bigger and I love the clips on the other end for a change. Looks good on the lawn, better on the water! Enjoy.
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  17. golfman44 Coho Queen

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    Maybe I shouldn't say this but as for pricing, ignore what he has on his site. I just bought an assault XX last month which he lists at $2,800 but I paid roughly half of that for a brand new one. PM me if you have any questions.
  18. LCnSac Active Member

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    You probably paid $1600-$1700 for your Assault XX. The "Show Specials" are his regular prices.I think most people who investigate a purchase know this, and that's your phone quote too. The only difference I've seen is the Predator which is listed at $1100 show price but he'll readily sell you one at $1000. Sometimes you can buy a demo for a small discount.
  19. golfman44 Coho Queen

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    Few hundred less than that. But yea you get the idea
    Absolutely love the boat so far
  20. Blue Active Member

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    Talked to Larry Tullis all weekend at the Fly Tying expo here. The Predator's material is very expensive. More than any of the other boats. The price is $999. and unless used can't drop below that.
    As for the D rings, you can twist them and they will not break.