According to Derek at the office they're constantly backordered on the Predator. No demo deals, and 3-4 weeks minimum for delivery all summer. I bought mine used yesterday and got offered $50 more than I paid last night because you can't get them until May at the earliest. I know I am going to miss the size of the Renegade for storage, but the light weight of the Predator is amazing. Glad you like the Assault XX, Golfman. That's a great rig. Twist your own dang D rings, Ms. Blue I'm not taking any chances.