( NFR ) Just curious what everyone does for a living??

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Roper, Dec 11, 2003.

  1. Roper

    Roper Idiot Savant

    If you need a senior partner, let me know...seriously, what do you like to do? Find a job doing just that...I've spent 30 some years chasing a paycheck. I think I would have rather done something creative instead.

    Roper,

    Good things come to those who wade...
     
  2. Steve Buckner

    Steve Buckner Mother Nature's Son

    Been there!!! I graduated with a B.S. degree in Applied physics and had been a computer programmer for 10 years or so out of college. I programmed in a variety of languages on various database platforms and was in the healthcare field. As the technology continued to change at a staggering pace, I found myself working 50-70 hour work weeks and then spending my "free" time trying to get caught up on the latest COM technologies. Just about the time one program would get the kinks worked out, Microsoft would come out with a new version of something and we would start the process all over again. It wore me out!!!

    What I started to realize was that although money is nice, all things considered, I'd rather live on less and do what I enjoy. Life is too short and many who live only for their retirement may find that life has passed them by.

    I also considered going back to school for a masters but never figured out what it would really do for my career because my goal was never to stay in corporate America. We Americans spend too much of our lives working and not enough time with family, friends, and doing what we enjoy. It's my understanding that in Australia, the average work day is about 6 hours. We could/should learn a thing or two from our Europian/Australian neighbors.

    If you're considering getting your own business going, I'd suggest that you find something that you're passsionate about. You may also have to be willing to sell your home and downsize for awhile until things get rolling. There are some good books to help you with the thought process. Many small business owners are also willing to help answer many questions that you may have because they know where you're coming from.

    You can do it...you just need a plan!!!
     
  3. Brad Niemeyer

    Brad Niemeyer Old School Member

    ( NFR ) Just curious what everyone does for a livin...

    Pwoens:

    Do what you love...anything else gets to be a grind and ultimately not worth the payoff....

    Personally I work for the largest winery in Washington as a Graphic Designer . I design packaging , instore displays , brand identity and various other interesting projects. Its mostly computer work with a bit of hand drawing. I can't recommend it for others, but it is what I enjoy. I supplement my modest income with sales of my fine art and occaisional freelance illustration ( see my carp tag in the carp fly swap)

    Ask yourself this question:
    What have you always wanted to do?

    -Piscean
    Calmness is power....:professor
     
  4. ZugBug

    ZugBug Member

    ( NFR ) Just curious what everyone does for a livin...

    Patrick-
    I am a stay at home Dad to my 2 boys ages 22 months and 5 years. I left the concrete construction industry about 4 years ago and never looked back. Highly recommend it if your wife makes good coin and you're not hung up on traditional gender roles. One thing I would say is don't be afraid to try something new. Find something you enjoy and don't get stuck in a job you hate.

    "Failure seldom stops you. What stops you is the fear of failure."
    --Jack Lemmon

    ps. How's that Sage SP+ treating you?
     
  5. alpinetrout

    alpinetrout Banned or Parked

    I'm a software developer for a commercial real estate and facility management company. I also moonlight doing network administration and some dev stuff for a few other companies to help finance my hobbies and toys.

    Sounds like I don't need to tell anyone to stay away from this kind of job. It's just one phase in my plan - the phase where I use the money from a good job to buy all the equipment I won't be able to afford when I'm doing something I really enjoy.
     
  6. ibn

    ibn Moderator Staff Member

    I'll bite.

    Went to WWU with the intent of being a music major, I play the tuba. Got burned out on that after a couple years, I dropped out of college to start on the tech support path. 6 years later I've worked my way up to a network engineer position for a large network service provider. If you ever see pnap.net or internap.com that's us. I spend most of my day surfing the web and configuring cisco routers/switches.

    I still enjoy what I'm doing for work and the people I work with. If money was not an issue for survival I know I would be fishing all the time. It's one of those things I want to be obsessed and imearsed with, but I just can't let myself do that.... yet.

    -I
     
  7. Andy

    Andy Workin in a sweet mullet

    ( NFR ) Just curious what everyone does for a livin...

    I sit behind a computer, corporate benefits processor, or something. Mainly I smoke cigarrettes and annoy my coworkers with fish tales.
    I am planning on going to Peninsula college in Port Angeles nex fall to get a degree in Fisheries/Natural resource management.
    I went to EWU for 4 years, and am one missed freshman class away from having a BA in recreation management. :beathead
    That turned out real well for me:bawling $20000 in student loans and no degree to show for it.
     
  8. ray helaers

    ray helaers New Member

    I'm an outdoor writer and environmental activist. I used to work at a fishing magazine. It's a rewarding career that gives me a lot of time for home and family, and I'm doing what I want to be doing. But you know what, when people claim to be jealous, I offer to show them my tax return. That's something to think about.

    I've got a certain amount of freedom and flexibility, but there's a lot I can't do. I'd like to fish the Sound a lot more, but there's no way I could afford a boat and a truck big enough to tow it. As a writer, I get offered free stays at lodges in AK and BC that I can't take advantage of because I can't afford the travel expense. I still haven't been able to replace the reels and lines I lost in a car break-in this fall. I drive a 12-year-old rig with a cracked windshield. I pray the roof on the house will hold out a couple more winters. My seven-year-old will want to go to college one day, etc, etc.

    I'm not complaining; I love my life. I'm just warning that the grass under us creative, self-actualized types might not be as green as it looks from your side of the fence.
     
  9. Mike Colagrossi

    Mike Colagrossi Whammo!

    You know what I do Pat, I am in outside sales for a software company. Actually allows me a lot of free time to fish and ski which I love.

    I looked into getting into the fly fishing business full time by either buying out a shop, starting fresh but I was not financially prepared to take the hit ( they say you should have 2 years living expenses saved up if you are going to venture into running your own business ). Running my own show one day is my goal but I just need to find something that I love, but still puts food on the table!!

    I am working on some things on the side that have to do with the Fly Fishing industy which keeps me busy and more importantly breaks up the monotany (sp?) of the daily 9-5.

    Speaking of which where are we going fishing in late December!!!

    Mike:beer2
     
  10. headstrong1

    headstrong1 youngish old guy

    I am an entomologist, and I can honestly reccomend the proffession to any flyfisherman- you already work with little things-knots, flies etc. and likely have an appreciation for insects! A hardened Wyoming rancher once said to me at an impressionable age, "you're gonna spend 75 % of your life working, better pick something good" Honestly I'd rather live as a fishing bum on say the Dean, but alas no trustfund here. I don't know anyone who hasn't made at least one career change. My mom got her MBA at age 50. Can anyone say they're still on plan A? I really believe anything is possible given a determined spirit. Being a weekend warrior from now to retirement isn't part of my gameplan, but I see how this happens all the time. Some people work to live, others live to work.
     
  11. pwoens

    pwoens Active Member

    ( NFR ) Just curious what everyone does for a livin...

    love the rod :thumb :thumb :thumb

    My wife is coming upon an opportunity to make 6 figures. If that happens I may become a stay at home dad myself ;). I know it aint easy and I give you kudos for doing it :thumb


    ~Patrick ><>
     
  12. Wazoo

    Wazoo New Member

    Great question. I think that it is one that all of us go through at some point. I was a licensed civil engineer for 27 years in consulting and construction management. The higher I went in Corporate America, the more I hated my work even though I was making more money. Finally after getting to a point where I had no time for my family or myself because I was working or traveling all the time, I said screw it and made a major career change.

    I bought an Executive Search franchise and work as a recruiter. I love it. I make more money than I use to, have time to fish, ski and golf, and spend a lot more time with my family. The transition was a bit ugly, but it was really worth it. The only regret was that I didn’t make the change earlier.

    Wazoo

    (I tried this post once but something happened, so I hope it is not a double post)
     
  13. YAKIMA

    YAKIMA AKA: Gregory Mine

    Hi.. Inventory control manager for a wholesale building material distributor... yep, I'm an accountant.
     
  14. andrew

    andrew Active Member

    My pen name is Andrew...I own one of Seattle's biggest software companies, I have an artificial salmon run off of Lake Washington....

    Oh wrong personality...I sit behind one of those evil machines drawing buildings for people that do have money. I aspire to be a stay at home Dad and hopefully pass on my desire for flyfishing to my kids.

    No job is a perfect job...just make time for people you care for, and the hobbies you enjoy, everything else is less important.
     
  15. Randy Knapp

    Randy Knapp Active Member

    Seattle Fire Fighter for last 24 years. Former insurance salesman. Former USMC helo pilot (yes, I did a tour in Nam).

    Randy


    " When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee" Isaiah 43:2
     
  16. jeffw

    jeffw Member

    I do social science research at WSU Spokane primarily around children and violence. It is engaging and rewarding work. I am also a mental health counselor, but don't do a lot of that any more. Couldn't be happier!

    Perhaps my best advice would be to keep an open mind. If it piques you curiosity, take a look at it. It is easy sometimes to say, "I could never do that." But you never know until you try. Don't be afraid to venture outside of your area of expertise or comfort. As Robert Louis Stevenson said, "The world is so full of a number of things, I think we should all be happy as kings!" And, of course, always heed the words of the legendary Yogi Berra, "If you come to a fork in the road, take it."

    Jeff
     
  17. Dylan D

    Dylan D Member

    Patrick -
    Great question, I'm sure a lot of people have thought of/done the same thing. I work for a nation-wide general contractor doing construction management. While I grew up in and went to college in Washington, I'm now down in the Bay Area counting the days until I can get back permanently. I still have great passion for construction and recommend it to anyone with an interest in it, so no career change for me yet, although I wouldn't rule it out down the road if something changes. Unfortunately, however, the hours are sometimes long, like a lot of jobs out there and it makes getting time in to fish very difficult. I suppose it just depends on where you're at in your life and what works best for you.
     
  18. Matt Burke

    Matt Burke Active Member

    Nurse. I take care of America's grandparents. Fish during the day and work evenings. Killer combo, for fishing that is.

    Matt
     
  19. soreshoulder

    soreshoulder New Member

    i think this i a great and never ending question. we should and probably all do question what we do. as for me i am a recruiter (last 4 years) and love it. my area of expertise is sales people, those folks are always wondering what and why they do what they do. today i work 40 hours a week and have fly fished 60 days a year since i started. however i dont say this is a good career choice since it appears that only about 1 in 20 last longer than 3 months. good luck finding your choice.
     
  20. International man of mystery.....}(

    Actually I work in Corporate Finance for a Seattle-based stock broker...I enjoy what I do and the benefits associated with the job. Would like to spend more time on the water but at this stage in my life, I'll sacrifice that for the paycheck. Hey Skinny, I'm originally from Australia and I can tell you we work just as hard out there as here in terms of hours/week, at least from what I saw. Europe on the other hand is very different, except London, another location where 14 hour days are common.

    :reallymad