NFR: Squaxin Tribe Taking 1/2 My Clams

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Go Fish, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. Kcahill Active Member

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    Call your homeowners insurance and explain to them what is happening and ask what type of insurance they need to work on your property like this. Forward that to the tribe in a certified letter requesting copies of their liability, automobile liability(any auto), any umbrella insurance they have, and copies of any contractor\sub contractor agreements and their insurances.


    Also request copies of work permits\green cards before allowing anyone on your property.

    edit: Since they are using a boat and not vehicles ask for copies of their marine insurance, DoT, and Coast Guard Compliance stuff including proof of pre employment drug screening.
  2. dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    I would ask to see their "Environmental Assessment" of what they proposed to do and the impacts on your beach (including the devaluation potential of your property!) , before letting them on the property. That would not be an unusual request! It affects YOU.
  3. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    I thought beach property only extended to mean high tide
  4. bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    I would love to see their reaction when you request these items, In their oppinion, You are living on their land that was taken from them illegally and they will tell you so in not so many words...



    Also request copies of work permits\green cards before allowing anyone on your property.

    edit: Since they are using a boat and not vehicles ask for copies of their marine insurance, DoT, and Coast Guard Compliance stuff including proof of pre employment drug screening.[/quote]
  5. Kcahill Active Member

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    Opinion doesn't matter, only who owns it now and what contracts\treaties\whatever you want to call it are valid now. I make my living working on others people property that do not want me there even though they sold the right of way on that land years ago, or the previous owner did(dating back to the 30's). If the current owner wants to make your life a living hell to get the work done they can.
  6. bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    Clearly you have never delt with Native Americans pursueing their treaty rights, I have, thats why no longer reside at the deeded beach house I once lived at.
  7. Kcahill Active Member

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    Only where I was trying to do work on land that they has sold the RoW to, and they made my life a living hell.
  8. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    The Warhoops or Nates or Indians are also referred to as Clameaters in the history books so let them eat clams
  9. underachiever !

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    Clams are tasty.
  10. triploidjunkie Active Member

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    Sigh... the only good thing about these kinds of threads is I learn who the d-bags are on this forum I'll never fish with.
  11. Flyborg Active Member

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    It has since the mid seventies and the states Shoreline Management Act. The state and realtors continue to illegally sell land in defiance of that. I'm not sure how land owned prior to the SMA is handled. It's a poorly written law for anything other than basic riparian limitations and farming use.
  12. speyfisher Active Member

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    I would be inclined to reply by certified letter that I had made a deal with my neighbor (who doesn't care for clams) that you can harvest 100% of his beach, but you get none of mine. ;)
  13. ben dover New Member

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  14. ben dover New Member

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    clams? wait until the "tribe" comes to "buy" your neighbors property and converts it into "indian trust land" removing it from the local tax revenue stream that helps pay for your schools, roads, fish conservation, environmental restoration, etc... oh, its already happening. we must eliminate the campaign contributions that fund our favorite fed and local government SLUTS that are behind this nonsense!

    Until the contributions to our "elected" sluts is cut off, the tax payer will continue to shoulder the burden. i truly believe the kennewick man might be my ancestor... why are the "special interests" (gov. and tribes) hiding his story?

    sorry for the rant but its far more simple than just clams!
  15. Derek Day Rockyday

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    Just make sure they backfill thier holes and be happy you have any owership rights to tidelands.
  16. dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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  17. Go Fish Language, its a virus

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    After much consideration we (the boss and I)
    are going to have a private harvester come
    in and take all of our clams.

    We stand to gain about $1700 to $2500 in our pockets.
    Of course the tribe gets half of the harvest.

    The people digging the clams will re-seed the beach
    which means in 3 to 4 years it will be back
    as good as before.

    I'm kind of torn on this being forced into
    doing something that I realy don't want to do.

    I wonder if they have the right to take
    half of my vegi garden too?

    Dave
  18. dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    Dave,

    What about half the time it took you to research this? Certainly YOU don't work for free!! :D
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  19. Don Freeman Freeman

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    That's telling it like it is! They still haven't been taken to task for cutting all the old growth forests, killing off the bison, passenger pigeons, hydraulic mining the rivers in California, greenhouse gases... well I could just go on and on.
  20. dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    And now they are having their "revenge". Ever been to a soul-sucking native american casino?