No argument here. peta is a charity organization, themselves! they use these occasional shock and awe publicity stunts, to raise money to make their car and boat payments etc etc etc. i think they are a fraud, they know they are a fraud, and its all about making themselves money, i don't think they really believe most of what they say, its just a scheme to make money from the well intentioned weak minded. this reminds, me, when my Mom was renting her house to this peta leader, wayne john, she was able through a friend to view a couple bank account balances with info he provided in his rental application. appearantly he had a 6 figure account in both banks, but for some reason he only rented, and did not own property. Hmmmmmmmmm.