Non hunters owning bird dogs

Discussion in 'Cast & Blast' started by ribka, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. speyfisher Active Member

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    Hit the mute button first.:D
  2. freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    I suspect the vast majority of sporting/working dogs are simply family pets that are rarely, if ever, used for sport or work. We had two awesome GR's that I never hunted but were well cared for, went everywhere with us, exercised a ton and an absolute joy to my wife and me. So long as the dogs are well cared for and get plenty of fun time... to each there own... after seeing some of the sad stories at the local animal shelters, I'll take that scenario every damn time.
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  3. bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    After having springer spaniels for hunting,I have now two pomerainans . What kind of work should I put these beasts to work doing ?

    ah, one of the "rat in a dog suit" breeds. They are touted as a "companion" breed. Basically they are best at ankle biting. :D ( Quote islander)

    Well one thing I know for sure, Bennys not the dog to take fishing when theres rotting humpys around, as he likes to roll in them and thats not a smell I really enjoy on my fishing companion
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  4. jessejames Flyslinger

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    We own two "working breed" dogs an Australian Shepherd and a English Springer Spaniel. They are both family house dogs, I don't hunt and I don't herd sheep. The dogs are active, they hike with us, fish with me and get plenty of play/work time in everyday.
    You don't need to feel sorry for my dogs they are loving life. IMG_4498.JPG
    This is an old "fat" picture of us I had to lose a LOT of weight to keep up with the doggies. lol
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  5. KerryS Ignored Member

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    I own a newf. He is not a ship's dog. He doesn't do rescues. He doesn't work as a draft animal. He is a family dog that gets plenty of exercise and is lucky enough to visit the river or a lake at least once and usually twice a week to swim. That is what he does. I could give a shit what anybody thinks I should do with my dog. Some people are so damn arrogant they think they have the right to pass judgement on everyone else. Stay the hell away from me and mine.

    Heavily armed in Sedro Woolley
  6. underachiever !

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    His title says "Active member", kind of sounds porn-y, probably a fluffer.
  7. Benjy Active Member

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    I agree that stupid urbanites shouldn't own sporting breeds. It promotes breeding for the wrong characteristics, which waters down the breed. I thought they all wanted rescue mutts, the dog that allows the truly enlightened city dweller to look down his nose with furrowed brow at all other dog owners.
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  8. Randall Clark Active Member

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    sorry, but I'm firmly in the camp of "why the f*ck should you care about what kind of dog someone has and whether or not they hunt with it?"...as long as the dog is well cared for...

    Who cares?

    I have one of those rescue mutts....but wait, he's half Brittany, half Lab...those are both sporting breeds...I'm so conflicted. I don't know if I should be looking down on all other dog owners or be ashamed for owning a mix of TWO sporting breeds and not hunting with him.

    :rolleyes:


    At least he's an amazing family dog...much like the mutt who came before him: half Springer/half Lab...yeah, I was conflicted then too...for 14 years.
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  9. ImperialStoutRunsThruMe Member

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    My Llewellin setter hunts pheasant and quail for, on average, 10 weekends a year. He's good for about 5 hours of hard hunting per day in the steep areas of the Palouse that we hunt.

    So 20 days x 5 hrs = 100 hrs actual hunting time per year. The other 8000 hours of the year, he does what non-hunting dogs do: poop, eat, play, smell things, ride in the car seat next to me, lay by the couch, sleep, take walks with me, and listen to me talk without ever complaining.

    The hunting part is nice for him and for me, but it's all the other things he does that make him a treasured member of the family.
  10. Ed Call Mumbling Moderator

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    Let's keep it civil. Personal attacks only devalues the thread and draws attention to folks behaving badly.

    I miss my Rotweiller. I didn't work him in a traditional sense but I loved that gentle beast with all my fiber. I love the working breeds, and am not a bird hunter. I can only hope my path crosses with a find new best friend sometime soon, and that dog will be my friend and get my attention. Others can judge. Being judgmental shows me more on out them than they will ever know about me.

    Love your family members, no matter the species! Some have your DNA. The rest you have chosen are woven into it or you are not doing it right.
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  11. Salmo_g Active Member

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    Why are you defending the blonde, Ed? I mean, do dogs, er do blondes, have brains?
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  12. Alex MacDonald Dr. of Doomology

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    Clearly the one in the video is amazing! Amazing in the sense that a creature that stupid can actually form words. But then again, I pretty much stopped listening to her and focused on the other assets...:D
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  13. martyg Active Member

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    I could not have said it better! Well done!
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  14. Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    +1
  15. Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

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  16. Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    I have some other neighbors with puggles. Can anyone tell me what the hell a puggle is supposed to do? Because all they do is escape and come over and shit in my yard. If that's theire purpose, then their owners are saints.
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  17. Roper Idiot Savant

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    Tom, I have no idea why many Seattle folks are passive/agressive, but they are. They have this no guns stance that one would think implies some sort of peaceful demeanor and yet they jump down your throats with their rhetoric. Don't even get me started with how they drive...:rolleyes:

    If one believes that dogs are bred for a purpose and display instinct and prey drive, I think that breed should be used as such. Dogs need a "job". Otherwise they get a little "goofy".

    I find it much easier to just stay away from Seattle all together and the folks that tend to live there. I sure don't get in conversations with them...:D

    I'm looking for a window of opportunity to come visit soon...take care
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  18. Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    Nor do I. And there seems to be a fair representation of those on this forum. If you dislike/disapprove of certain things/posts/photos/someone else's fishing day of a lifetime . . . so be it. Don't chastise anyone on this forum because their beliefs/philosophies/experiences don't meet your personal expectations. If you don't like the post, ignore it. Educating folks is one thing; verbally assaulting them is another.

    ALL dogs should be exercised/provided ample stimulation. Bird dogs hunt; THAT is their thing . . . birds are an elixir. If you don't realize that and own a frustrated hunting breed, I truly feel sorry for the dog.

    How happy would, say a fishing guide be if he were to be "adopted" and never be exposed to fishing again? Would he be slighted had he met someone on the street, asked a friendly question, and been treated to "Hooks," "A fisherman." Just asking. Small wonder I don't visit here as much anymore . . . too many replies have become "vexations to the spirit."
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  19. freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    I dunno guys... I have seen a whole bunch of sporting breed dogs in my life that are owned by folks who never or rarely hunt with them and they seem very happy and well balanced. Totally get the basic premise here, but I fall into that category...are you suggesting we not have a yellow lab?

    What about hunt like activities that folks get these dogs involved with; field trials, search & rescue, narcotics and bomb search, etc. ... these certainly use the DNA chains and natural skills. Conversely, I had a good friend who had a lab that was trained for duck hunting, got training exercise fairly regularly, but lived in a kennel outside and was alone much of the day...to me he seemed more a tool than mans best friend. In the end, I suspect dogs adjust to the lifestyle of whoever takes GOOD care of them and I would rather see any dog with anyone who can provide good care as opposed to one that gets to hunt all the time but is simply a hunting tool and gets marginal care.

    Just my .02 cents... please, no "vexations to the spirit" (I like that one) :D.
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  20. Roper Idiot Savant

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    Re-reading the post I think it was more about culture shock that someone from the 509 might experience in Seattle, not a lecture on what you should or should not do with your dogs.
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