Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Uno, Dec 27, 2008.
What are your experiences with the NOR-VISE?
Very well thought out design. I kept hearing "it will take some getting use to" before I used one... wasn't the case for me. I would rate it as one of the best vises on the market today.
I love my Nor-Vise. Norm makes an excellent product and his customer service is bar none. I've tied with many vises and once I got the Nor-Vise in my hands, I'll never go back. Because of this vise is the reason I'm a Pro-Staff for Norm. If you have a friend who has one, try it out and see if you like it. It think the main reason for the high learning curve that everyone mentions, is because of the automatic bobbin. It's also a great product, but you can surely tie with regular bobbins like me.
Me too. I have a Regal, a Matarelli Traveler (is that what htey call it)
the Cabela's Rotary, a hand forged vise made from needle nosed pliers
and the NOR. I like them all (Cabela's the least). But I like the Nor
the best. It's my main vice....after tobacco and whiskey anyway.
The Nor comes with a cdrom demonstrating all kinds of high-speed
whoopdedoo body things you can do...all of which I seldom even attempt.
But it's still worth it. The Cabela's rotary is so hard to turn and then to
fix I end up using it as a stationary vise, if at all. What's good (for me)
about the Nor vise is how easy is it to turn or spin when I want,
and how quick and easy it is to fix right-side up, upside-down or sideways when
I want that.
My only complaint is that it (the whole thing) tends to rotate horizontally
around the vertical spindle it mounts on. It has a way to tighten a
thumb screw, in order to fix horizontal rotation position....but that
particular screw keeps getting loose at just the wrong time.
Still, I wouldn't give it up. I love the the super-accurate way I can
wind any body material with the Nor. And hackles too. I just don't
try to do it fast, not the way it's often advertized.
And now from the peanut gallery:
I purchased one and the automatic bobbin and returned them. I found it to be completely wrong for me. Nor products are nicely made and Norm is a great guy and provides wonderful customer service. But I found it to be one of those "love/hate" type of products. Definitely a product I would suggest you try tying on a bit before you buy.
I am new at tying and when I decided to replace my "Kit" vise I purhcased the Nor Vise. I had seen other students using them in my class. I didn't find any learning curve, but the vise and bobbin work well together and allow for easy dubbing - that is if I'm doing it correctly... We didnt' learn that in class, just watched Norm do it on the DVD the vise came with.
Ah, the bobbin. I agree about that. I paid for the damn bobbin and never could
make it work. Don't want it or need it.
I've heard your reaction too, several times. So there there's no telling.
Sometimes you just have to take a chance
in life, and see what happens.............
They are an excellent and very well-made vise; but like Halcyon, I don't like them and have found that folks either love 'em or hate 'em. I recommend you try one before buying.
I had been using a Danvise in both my desk and travel kits. I finally broke down and got a Nor-vise, full setup from a friend and member here. Right out of the box it was hands down the coolest tool and best upgrade to my shop ever. I was able to work with it right out of the box and I think my flies are still getting better at time goes on. Dubbing with synthetics takes a bit more practice as you are not using a loop, but you still could if you prefer too. Awesome investment, at least it was for me.
I've switched almost all of my rotary tying vises in my shop that I use for classes out for the Norvise system. Simply said, Norm stands behind everything that he sells 100%. I now have 8 "lesson Vises in the shop which I've retrofitted with the midge jaw setup and newly designed 2 piece bent-arm assembly. I really like this setup because now I can tye a greater amount of hook sizes with the smaller jaws and keep things true rotary and balanced perfectly. coupled with the heavier drive arbor and you can't beat this vise for smoothness. Norm has also reworked that thumbscrew drag system that you talk about and that is available on all new vises in '09. I own several high end vises from other companies but, this vice is my favorite. I will agree that it is not a "do-all" vise as no vise is. It has it's great points though and I'd also agree that most of the "learning Curve" has to do with the auto bobbin. Once you get onto that though, you won't go back. I feel that it's indespensable when tying rotary and it's concept is exceptional!
I had one for a while and I used to tie up woven flies. It is a great tool for making tapered bodies.. By spinning the spindle,it is easier to lay on thread instead of winding it by hand. But I ended up giving it back as my tying started to suck.
I have used the Nor-Vice and bobbins for many years. I'm on my third vice (still have the other two, just upgrade as Norm comes out with newer models) and wouldn't tie any other way. I also use his tube vice attachment system and it's just as good. I just had a custom desk built and it has a Nor-Vice station that fits on a fold out drawer. The Nor-vice is a great system and customer service is awesome. There is a learning cure that can take some time. Alot of folks quit before they actually figure out how to use it but if you stick it out, it gives you some pretty cool options on both speed, techniques and fly creativity. Tight lines Coach
Can I call him "Norm" Halycon, or is that name dropping? I followed your lead on this one.
I agree with all the Nor-vise fans. Switched from a Renzetti (still in possesion) a couple of years back. Still tie some flies on it and a Danvise, but the Nor-vise is the "main squeeze". Have the latest and greatest from Norm with all the attachments. Norm's service is impeccable. Don't quite understand the "learning curve" claims other than it's just diffferent to tie on. Love the bobbins except re-threading them is a pain in the butt when you break the thread. That rarely occurs anymore after using them for a while.
You can call Norm, or anyone else, anything you please. I believe you have me confused with another peanut gallery denizen
I am going to give the Nor-Vise a try.
I could have sworn it was a complete dickhead with your handle Halycon that decided to be an asshole on a Walt Johnson based post. Accused me of being a name dropper and took the conversation away from Walt, which was the real crime. Walt was a gem. Typical "my blow up doll doesn't do it for me anymore so I'll start up some shit I'd be scared to finish offline" post from another computer jockey. I'm used to those kind of attacks. But if that isn't you, my mistake, apologies and tight lines I had you confused with someone else! If it was you, go fuck yourself. Coach
I got one for christmas its pretty much awesome I think if I ever have money again I'm gonna get the tube fly attachment, and a few more bobbins...
Halycon, I insinuated that you were someone else and for that I apologize. Duff
Looks like another pissing match folks.