November fly salon: Bonefish patterns

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Pat Lat, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. So even though I don't fish for them, or have any chance of doing so in the near future I still find my self tying bonefish patterns when the mood strikes. I was dinking around, experimenting with braid bodies with little beads inside to rattle around. After I finished the crab pattern it clicked and I knew it would make a strong salon theme.
    I there are quite a few established patterns, but like with steelhead flies, the options are virtually endless. As an added bonus, no one will tell you that your using too many wraps of tinsel, or that your tag extends too far past the hook tine.
    Plus, the variety of multicolored and shaped food items in bonefish habitats gives you a chance to get creative. Lots of patterns call for markers or paint, bright colored feathers or synthetics, epoxy, added weight, exaggerated profiles, you name it.
    Well have at it, read the salon guidelines if you have not already
    http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com...hat-it-is-and-how-it-works.72427/#post-685034

    and remember these are supposed to be bonefish patterns...
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  2. Hey Pat,
    Do my simple, no frills bonefish patterns from thirty years ago still count?:)
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  3. of course they do, and they still look stylish
     
  4. i just came back after 8 years in the Caribbean where i guided.
    caught bonefish every time out and fished just about every day.
    i used two flies
    #8 or #10 chartreuse clouser 90% of the time
    and a crazy charly 10% of the time.
     
  5. well thats cool, ever think about changing it up for fun. Tying 8 years worth of chartreuse clousers sounds boring to me, although I'm sure they were of very consistant quality by that 8th year, But I love tying as much as I like fishing, maybe more, and I absolutely hate following recipes.
     
  6. Pat, its cool your into tying.
    its an art.
    i was really into it the first 10 years i took up the sport.
    i fished mostly browns every day all season long during those years. tying hundreds of different mayfly patterns and hundreds of nymph patterns.
    by the end of three years studying stoneflies and presentation for them, i only used one nymph pattern in one size that i fished fall, summer and spring. i used four dry fly patterns and one wet fly all season - this allowed me to take the time to learn about the chanterelles and wild garlic i had stepped on for five years on my way to the pool because i was totally preoccupied with the brown in the pool before i even got there.
    i still enjoy tying and have much to learn but it is secondary for me. when a fly doesnt work or i have a new species to figure out then tying is a priority for a while.
    casting was a priority and i really got into it. i practiced everyday till i could double haul twenty feet into the backing. casting now is a secondary study for me even though i have still have a lot to learn.
    i have friends who have used fly fishing for many years as an excuse to cast.

    if i know the clouser is gonna catch the bonefish 90% of the time then i have time to figure out what fly and presentation tarpon want. then what ladyfish, barra or snook or triggerfish or yellowtail or jacks want.

    fishing a clouser for bonefish for 8 years was never boring because my mind was always occupied on other aspects of the fishing experience.
    while fishing for coho a few weeks ago with the clouser pattern i've used for 15 years, i freed an eagle and an raven that were tangled up together on fishing line. i would never have seen that eagle and raven 15 years ago because my eyes were never off the water.

    10 guys were within 20 yards of the eagle and the raven behind them. none of them saw it. some were absorbed in the current, some were figuring out the fly, some were working on 15 ft further than they were getting, some were thinking of a new color to tie when they get home, some were thinking of changing to a sink tip....
     
  7. When you fish a single area for bones I imagine that the habitat doesn't change much. Mud flats, grass, deep pools, current seems, shallow water, etc... over many areas of the world where bones are found might make one want different patterns. After a trip to Ascension awhile back I found a pattern that worked better than others and it was one I could only tie after I had been there a couple of days and I could really understand the habitat. I tied a dozen and had 6 left at the end of 6 days fishing them. I gave every one of them to my bartender/server in the resort I was at as a small part of his tip. Even though he didn't fish himself, he knew he could turn around and market them to desperate bone fisherman in the future.

    I'm excited to be part of this salon. Pat, nice choice.
     
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  8. sweet essay, you gonna post a pic of your clouser now?
    And I didn't say fishing for them would be boring, I just said restricting my tying the same pattern forever would be, isn't that one of Dantes nine levels of hell?
    But, seriously I would like to see the end result of 15 years of experience tying a chartreuse clouser, I bet they look very manufactured.
     
  9. I figured that bones in florida probably see different food than bones in hawai'i, or the yucatan, or anywhere else they're found, so like you mentioned, maybe what I was trying to say was same habitats, different geographical location. But remember, I only fish for them in my head, Just thought it would be a fun theme seeing as how there are about a brazzillion different shrimp, crab and baitfish flies for bones in the magazines these days. Can't wait to see yours Ira, your comment about the 3 swinging fly themes in a row prompted me to do something different.
     
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  10. no no no
    that's not one of the nine levels of hell - losing a bet is though.
    what do you mean by "very manufactured"?
    i need some cash.
     
  11. You know, like catalog flies, extremely consistent, no personality, clone army style;)
    Here's something fresh off the vice to get the creative juices flowing
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  12. can you tie another one in the same pattern so i can see if there's a difference in personality - this one is definitely schizophrenic ;)
     
  13. this is one example.
    all the other clousers tied are exactly the same (like 'manufactured') in their own category- like the no beer category, the two beer category, the three beer category etc, (then of course the same pattern varies if viewing porn while concurrently tying (flies that is, not the femme) ;)
     

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  14. Its a good thing my ass can cash a metaphorical check
    If this one had a personality, it might be influenced by some sort of grass. My guess is that its probably a Jamaican bonefish fly. IMG_8526.JPG
     

  15. Pat, you should know Jamaican grass is history these days- you 60's old school ;)
    Was the bet metaphorical as well?
     
  16. Nice crab pattern at the top. Lots of cool flies in this thread. I need to get busy. I'll be down that way for two weeks of kayak camping in January. Gonna try grasshoppers for the first time too. The bonefish come in to an overhanging restaurant in Deadman's Cay to eat pork fat off the surface. That people throw at them. I have a hunch they'd eat a foam grasshopper. If you offered it.

    I want to try wigglers too, for the giant sniffers at the mouth of the bight who seldom move. But who do occasionally sniff your fly and then refuse.
     
  17. I'm reminded of a friend met on the beach commenting on your tying influences...

    I'm heading to HI in early Feb...manufacture me some Mantis Shrimp imitations would you???[​IMG]
     
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  18. Oh I'm sure you'll have a few of my flies for your trip. we'll call it beta testing
     
  19. OK here's my fly...dark colors for the bonefish of Hawaii. Mix of brown and tan EP fibers for the body, spun in a dubbing loop. Maxima Chameleon eyes, lead free wire underbody for sink. I'll leave the Mantis shrimp patterns up to you.

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