now here is some fancy casting!

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by fisshman26, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Yard Sale

    Yard Sale Active Member

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    My bad, wasn't meaning you. More talking to SC. Either way its all good. With some of the ultra hardcore long line purist BS that gets posted here its hard to tell whats what sometimes. As in people hating on the squidro deal.....
     
  2. fisshman26

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    ultra long line purist BS......is that anything like the ultra fat short line BS????
     
  3. Yard Sale

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    Have you ever read anything about skagit guys hating on long liners?
     
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    hmmmm yep, scotty o saying long lines are for fags and scotty H saying somthing else about long liners in his latest video
     
  5. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    what about guys who cast skagit, scandi, and longer lines? does that make me extra-metro?
    wait, am I tri-curious?
    oh, I'm all confused now:clown:
     
  6. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Funny stuff. Would have been super cool if he would have hooked his hat on the forward cast or hit the side of that boat passing by.
     
  7. Jergens

    Jergens AKA Joe Willauer

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    The comments on YouTube are priceless. Amazing that people out there think this is a guy trying to teach a real technique.
     
  8. yuhina

    yuhina Tropical member

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    Man... I thought Bruce is finally willing to teach us what Formula 1 Pro is doing!
    Dang...
     
  9. Bryce Levin

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    All Scott Howell said about long lines was the obvious; not being able to cast in tight spaces like the one he is casting from (Scott Howell), and fatigue being a limiting factor in the amount one fishes.
     
  10. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    I can suggest a great opportunity for that, Mark.
    Member's Day at SOR, the world championship of spey casting... Wednesday, April 18. Your chance to get training from SOR's competitors... and Mr Kruk will be there instructing, along with a number of other international spey casting competitors.
     
  11. yuhina

    yuhina Tropical member

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    Bryce,

    Exactly! Not sure why those "purists" got worked up so much... and believe it or not...most of the skagit casters/masters I know also fish eh....the long lines...and have fun with it in certain conditions. I am sure those "Purists" will take this statement as an insulting...see a great report from Rick below, I am sure they all had a heck of fun! monoliner, biliner, triline... whatever...

    http://speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=51984&highlight=Rick
     
  12. fisshman26

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    Yep those guys tried a 65ft head line that I had lent Whit.......I wont comment on how they did with it!
     
  13. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    Hi Mark
    I remember that thread. Speaking of which, Ms Gould will be instructing at SOR Member's Day too.
    Better drive on down there, it's an opportunity you won't want to miss.
    View attachment 47506
     
  14. James Waggoner

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    Fatigue with a long line? Lets weight the alternative...600 grain skagit with a 12' of t14, every water borne cast needs an addtional mini cast to set up the anchor, stripping and shooting gobs of line even for a short 70' cast.

    I think the right answer is "trade-off" ...yes skagits are clunky, take more work/energy but are very forgiving and get the heavy junk I need to feel confident fishing, to a depth I feel confident fishing. I personally don't like to use skagits, not oppossed to skagit use I just find other systems more enjoyable.

    James.
     
  15. Greg Holt

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    James,
    +1, well put sir.
     
  16. Greg Holt

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    More food for thought with regard to head length vs. casting/fishing enjoyment:

    There is a point in the progression towards shorter heads where the activity becomes one having more in common with baticasting rather than flyfishing.

    Each caster has his/her own personal threshold of tolerance in that regard; however, technology knows no such restraint--we could produce 600 grain 2 foot heads if there was a market for them, some would accept them with eagerness.

    If James is correct (and I believe he is) about the "trade-off", knowing that (in the heart as well as the head) could make many casters reluctant to go too far down the short head path.

    Disclosure: I have nothing against baitcasting and it's techniques, they are simply not of interest to me when flyfishing.
     
  17. Paul Huffman

    Paul Huffman Lagging economic indicator

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    How many grains of mono running line do I need to properly load my Burky 13 ft. 8 wt.?
     

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