Occupy Skagit

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by _WW_, May 19, 2012.

  1. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

    Years ago, way back in the last century, I made a joking comment at the counter of my local fly-fishing store about 'fishing' for bites. You do this with a fly that has no hook. At that time we determined that it would probably be illegal in closed areas and seen as harassing the fish.

    Zip forward a couple decades and now guys are setting up on closed rivers and trying out spey rods with just a piece of yarn tied to the leader. Now we all know that the highly evolved intelligence of a steelhead would never fall for such a ruse being all busy calculating algorithms, calculus, and rocket scientry types of things. However it being a manmade product yarn might be construed in some manner as to be a lure because, lets face it, pink yarn is such a powerful tempting thing that I often have to stop myself from biting it and then thrashing around in the water...but that's another story for another day.

    So how do we Occupy the Skagit without getting our butts thrown in jail? I propose that we reach into the water, grab a small twig or leaf and tie that on the end of the leader. It is a natural thing that was already in the water...and if by some miracle I was to catch a fish...well...I guess I would have to write a book and make some videos...but again that is yet another story.
  2. Dan Cuomo

    Dan Cuomo Active Member

    One day, this past winter, I wanted to work on my spey casting. The Puyallup had closed, and I was concerned about the legality of practicing on a closed river. I called Washington fish and wildlife enforcement and was told that so long as I had no hook on whatever I was throwing, I was fine. They asked me to give them a quick call when I was headed over, so that if they received a complaint they could save the trouble of sending an officer over and assure the caller that I was not truly fishing on closed water. I've done so a few times since and I remain at large.
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  3. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

    You sir, are quite the rebel! :)
  4. Salmo_g

    Salmo_g Active Member


    You have just described what modern day PS steelheading has become. Hookless casting practice. I proposed that the fly club hold it's annual Skagit outing next spring and do just that. It's hard to hurt fish that aren't even there, harder still with a piece of yarn on the end of the leader.

  5. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

    I'm thinking the weekend of the 20th April...
  6. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

    420 day fish in?

    Go Sox,
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  7. TrevorH

    TrevorH Active Member

    halaslkalndvjkn gibberish ...

    so how do you delete a post????
  8. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

    Oh no...fishing is illegal.
  9. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

    I called legal at WDFW on the same issue, a friend had gotten a ticket for practice casting on closed waters, and it was thrown out before even going to court.
    No hook=not fishing.
    Calling before you go, as previously mentioned, a great way to avoid being hassled.
  10. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

    That doesn't sound like any Occupy I ever heard of...
  11. Dan Cuomo

    Dan Cuomo Active Member

    Ten years living in the lower east side of NYC, and touring the country w/ a punk band was about as much rebellion as I need for a lifetime. What do you have, Fishes with Wolves?
  12. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

    I think we should occupy Youngs bar and play our ukelales and bongo drums until the state wildlife officals give in and reopen the lower skagit river & if nothing else maybe we will revive the beatnik revolution....
  13. Dan Cuomo

    Dan Cuomo Active Member

    I like the idea... Then Ginsberg's "The Howl," might have read; " I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked" ... in search of steelhead... or something like that?
  14. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

    About 11 months...:)
  15. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

    I think the issue here is to provoke a response from WDFW. Occupy Skagit should be more of a protest than a practice session. If 2 guys do it, no one will care. If 200 show up, somebody will notice.
  16. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

    Sometimes you need to dump a little tea into the harbor to get some attention.
  17. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

    I'll bring beer.

    Go Sox,
  18. Jim Darden

    Jim Darden Active Member

    my buddy bill and I nearly created a crime wave when we went practice casting on the Nooksack. I was surprised at how many calls the WDFW officer got. He finally figured it out when he heard we were fly fishing with the water running over the banks with pure chocalate water. Next time I'll call WDFW......However, I'm getting excited at the current "occupy" movement; maybe we should assemble in large numbers to fish (without hooks) on closed rivers to draw attention to our plight. We could storm the local towns, break some windows and burn some bars just to exercise our "fredom of speech".....could make for an interesting day during the closed season....what do you guys think???? ;)
  19. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

    I don't see anywhere in this thread the suggestion of vandilism or destruction of property. Why do you suggest it now? I think it is stupid.
  20. Nooksack Mac

    Nooksack Mac Active Member

    Jim Darden, who I know to be a sensible solid citizen, speaks with tongue in cheek. But it raises interesting issues: how should one conduct a protest against an agency whose efforts most of us respect? If we cut too wide a swath, it's like protesting school policies by harassing that nice, hard-working fifth grade teacher. OTOH, a polite, orderly protest is an oxymoron. We want to make some people nervous and uncomfortable: the placid time-servers who'd not be disturbed if the last fish in Washington went extinct, as long as their jobs remain intact and fully funded; the fat cats who are in thrall to a hundred commercial fishermen, while unimpressed by the suffering of a hundred thousand dedicated sports anglers; the legally tongue-tied, whose first impulse is always "No! We couldn't do that - it would conflict with Federal policy!"

    Democracies pay attention to protest, and eventually respond to some extent; brittle autocracies like Syria can't distinguish between mild public complaint and armed rebellion. Let's figure out how to protest smartly. No bricks, but perhaps custard pies. If we can't speak up for what we cherish, we sort of deserve to lose it, year by year.

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