OP This Weekend

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Bryce Levin, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Walla Walla, WA
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    Head mount all the way. Makes sure that the viewer gets vertigo/throws up from motions sickness. Seriously though it worked out better than I thought it would. I wish they had better battery life. I can store 5 hours od HD, but I am pretty sure after a little over 2 hours my battery was dead. But I may have had the WiFi on...still kind of new with this toy.

    I hope you take my foul, though "not intentionally harmful" lip flapping for what it is.

    I also am in a unique position that much of where I fish is either remote, private property or not intuitive when it comes to figuring out how/when to fish. Begin able to catch fish without an audience has spoiled me an, probably has lead to me being a touch unsympathetic. I do apologize for that. If I went to my favorite river and encountered 30 people in 3 hours of fishing, I'd be pretty pissed. And I'd probably bitch about it on some internet forum :)
  2. sleestak240 Member

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    WA
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    And herein lies a perfect example of the plight that anglers/steelhead face today...instead of actually tackling meaningful and legitimate issues we have a real knack and passion for spending our time pettily bickering about who is more "hardcore", getting into internet tough-guy rants and bitching about which individual or user group has a more inherently legitimate right to utilize the resource.

    Pretty disheartening when this thread has 2,200 views and 60 responses while this: http://washingtonflyfishing.com/for...-american-wild-steelhead-movie-trailer.86988/ has just over 200 and only 6 responses.
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  3. Craig Pablo Member

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    Ronan, MT
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    I'm heading to the OP later this month to fish. I'll rock my puffy jacket with pride if the weather calls for it. Meanwhile, I'll fish my home waters and when I fish the Bitterroot in the next month I'll watch the endless parade of drift boats being towed down hwy 93 behind Washington plated pickups. I'll watch them do the vehicular version of musical chairs, 3 or 4 guys jockeying for the last couple of empty parking spots at the launch. When I actually get up early to go float, I'll watch the guides try to get to the lauch first, then row like mad, actually trying to pass each other to get the best holes to have first fly, so their clients can get a genuine Montana grip and grin. Funny thing is, I'll actually treat them with respect. I won't give them the cold shoulder, I'll talk with them if they offer conversation. I'll tell them what fly is working. I certainly won't sink to the level of calling them names, especially the absolute ridiculous name thrown out in phister's post. How homophobic was that?
    It's a fact of life, Montana has better trout fishing than Washington. Washington has better steelhead fishing than Montana. Logically, Washington people are going to want to come to Montana to trout fish, and Montana people are going to want to go to Washington to steelhead fish. I suggest a little more tolerance would go along ways in making everyone's lives easier. Try it, you might be surprised :)
  4. sopflyfisher Active Member

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    Where the fish are located
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    Case in point. Press about the sweet Montana trout fisheries hasn't done the fish or the angler any good. As press about the op being the land of the mystical last wild steelhead hasn't done it any good either. Most press is bad press.
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  5. sopflyfisher Active Member

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    Where the fish are located
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    Craig i am confused. Please don't take this wrong but u complain about crowds, like my last post yet u blog your fishing exploits. Again not attacking u just trying to understand.
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  6. Jeremy Floyd fly fishing my way through life

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    Quesnel, BC
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    I didnt mean that as a personal attack, I apologize if it came across that way. I was merely commenting on David's quality rant.
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  7. James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    There aren't 6000 steelhead per mile. We are talking about total run sizes of less than 6000 for a 100 miles of river. Do I hate the Montana folks coming to fish? No. Do I hate the plentiful trout numbers mentality and the ignorant rudeness, absolutely. Considering how little is open now, any press regardless of the source isn't doing the resource any good. I understand that these writers need to make a living, and I *love* reading a lot of these works. But this isn't the era of Zane Grey, and jocking the very limited resource is pretty much putting a pig pile of folks on the last stronghold of steelhead in the state.
  8. Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

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    Bellingham Wa.
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    The end is near, we are fighting over the last steelhead, then it will be the last bull trout or searun cut or whatever....
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  9. _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

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    Skagit River
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    Curious that you used that term. This from Wikipedia:
    Since 2000, on psychological tests designed to detect narcissism, the scores of residents of the United States have continually increased. Psychologists have suggested a link to social networking.

    So...I reckon we should all just quit talking to each other and everything will be fine! :)
    Who wants to go first?
  10. Joepa Joe from PA

    Not me. If I wanted to catch trout, I would have moved to Montana. The OP experience as I've known it has largely been ruined for me, but I don't fault anyone from Montana for that. So come and bring your boats and join the fleet and wait in line to wet one; I'll leave my boat at home from now on and go old school.
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  11. Craig Pablo Member

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    Ronan, MT
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    No offense taken sopflyfisher. For clarification I am not complaining, merely pointing out a different view regarding crowds from other states. It's a simple fact of life that we all have to live with whether we like it or not, all complaining about it will accomplish is diminished enjoyment. Just my .02. As for my blogs, 99% of the areas I write about are no secrets, and the few secret spots I write about I don't name and are not that great of spots anyway. Besides, I mostly write about the overall experience rather than the quality of fishing, in fact many of my trips are rather forgettable in regards to numbers and size of fish caught. :)
  12. Craig Pablo Member

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    Ronan, MT
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    James,

    Regardless of what perceptions may be out there, very, very few rivers in Montana can boast anywhere near 6,000 fish per mile. In fact I'll allow only two (the Missouri and that is only in the short section from the dam to Craig, and the Beaverhead in the short section below Clark Canyon) even approach that number. The overwhelming majority of rivers in the state fall way short of half that number. I"m not complaining, just clarifying. Is the trout fishing still great in Montana? Absolutely. As for the rudeness, unfortunately that is found everywhere, I offer no excuse for anyone from Montana for that. Having said that, there are plenty of rude people from outside that fish here as well....
  13. James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Tacoma
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    Fine, we can go with 1000 trout per mile (Yakima numbers) :) Rudeness is found everywhere, but local traditions really should be respected regardless. Just because you're visiting your neighbor doesn't mean you get to shit in their living room. :)
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  14. JesseCFowl Active Member

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    seattle, wa
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    I'll have you know that I make it a point to secretly shit in every living room possible!

    Wait, what?
  15. olypenjeeper Member

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    Astoria Oregon
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    I just got back from 2 days of fishing and seeing the in-laws in Forks, Monday was beautiful, hit the Bogey hard, no luck but did run into about 6 other people on remote gravel bars 3 miles up trail. They just kept popping out of the woods, haven't seen that before up there. Ran into the "Goat Lady" that's what we nicknamed her anyways, walking down a gravel road with about 10 goats and a few dogs, looking WEIRD. I seen alot of weird stuff around there, but that is in my top 5 now.

    All in all it was a good trip, my first time back winter steelheading the west end in 4 years. And I was really surprised how many people were I saw on a weekday. Several trucks on the Hoh with Montana plates, Idaho plates etc... But I've got Oregon plates now on my truck, so they were prolly saying the same thing aout me too.
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  16. Craig Pablo Member

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    Ronan, MT
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    lol, ok. Well I'm still going to invade the OP later this month and have no plans to defecate in your living room. Unless you consider me wearing my puffy jacket and flat-brimmed cap as pooping on your porch :)
  17. Jumbo Member

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    Rural Western Wa, USA.
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    don't you guys understand that the internet is the problem? shut your mouths and go fish.
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  18. Craig Pablo Member

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    Ronan, MT
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    LMAO! you sir, are the definition of irony. Oh yeah, btw, I spent approximately 100 days on the water last year.