A few years ago, Orvis was marketing spey lines in three basic belly lengths: the Type 1 with a 50-54-foot head, the Type 111 with a 90-102-foot head, and , of course, the Type 11, which fell in the middle. These are two-tone (mustard and green) lines, and I'd bet an oatmeal-rasin cookie that they're made by Rio. Unfortunately, they must not have been hot sellers, because Orvis is now closing out the Type 1 and 111 lines (see their Sale items on their website), and the Type 11 is not to be seen. The Type 1, which retailed for $69, is available in WF 6, 7, and 10 weights, and the Type 111, which was $79, is available in WF 9 through 12 weights. And they're just $19.99, while they last! I got a WF10 Type 11 earlier, and found it a good performer. I recently bought and tried a WF10 Type 111 extended belly. It formed good loops and turned over nicely, as much of it as I could cast, but was too heavy for my 9/10/11 rod. Later, I weighed the 97-foot front taper: it was 1176 grains, which I think would balance most 11/12 rods. I'll have to try it on my 16-foot Alltmor. Some comparisons: The original Rio GrandSpey 10/11 was a 1500-grain monster, definitely a 12-weight. It measured .047" at the tip, quickly growing to .061" at three feet, and maxed at .095" at 87 feet from the tip. By comparison, the Orvis WF10 Type 111 is .046" at the tip and at 3 feet, growing to a maximum .090" at 97 feet, the back end of the extended taper. My point is that although matching a line to your rod might be a bit tricky (what else is new?), these are good, quite useful lines at giveaway prices. Grab one or two while you can.