I talked to Kelley at Outast yesterday....what a company :thumb:. After talking to her I think I am leaning more towards the 800 or 900 now. The 9000, in their opinion, is deisgned more for lakes. She said it will handle whitewater but is more suited for still water and in some of the situations mentioned, will handle less than desireable because of the two toons on each side AND low center of gravity. Plus, the extra width with the 9000 makes it almost impossible to fit in the full size bed of my truck. If I buy an 800 and some 1000 toons extra I could have two toons for the price of the 9000 . Thanks everyone for the input...it really has helped a ton.