Poor eastside steelhead rivers.

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Panhandle, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. salt dog card shark

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    The Met fish were all stacked up in the lower river due to very low water, so ya, basically dredging for steelhead in a barrell. After getting absolutely pounded the first couple of days, catch rate dropped through the floor and got worse through the weekend.

    Reminded me of the days when fishermen followed the hatchery "milk" trucks around to fish shoulder to shoulder where ever they dumped the hatchery trout. Quite sporting I'm sure. :beathead:

    I'll wait until November; it's about a whole lot more than just catching fish.
  2. Panhandle Active Member

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    Which is the problem, and illuminates my original open ended statement. You're a "Steelheader." Many of the people out there are "Fish catchers." :eek:
  3. gearhead Active Member

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    Look, ya will never catch anything with sour grapes, i was simply reported a good day and wanted to share with others thinking about going for the same reason, if catching fish is not important to you, thats you, i'm sure there are plenty of pretty places you can go, with no people and no fish and have a splendid time swinging. as for me, and maybe a couple other non elitist pricks, i want to go for a good time and some good fishing, the state asked for help and i did my part, in managing a beautiful stream for wild fish. i was happy to do it :)
  4. salt dog card shark

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    Edmonds WA / Mazama
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    2009 Methow Opener.
  5. ospreysteelhead Member

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    Seattle, WA
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    well said.
  6. Trent Ugly member

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    Here
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    Dude...is that really the Methow, or is it the Samish?
  7. Big Tuna Member

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    It's probably the Salmon R. in New York. At any rate, it's not the Methow.
  8. 1morecast Active Member

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    Less fish to fish for, more people fishing for them....Throw in the internet, creative marketing from everyone in the industry; from the tackle mfgrs. to guides, outfitters, and lodges, which all promise to help a fly fisherman catch fish. Turn on the television and you will see plenty of commercials showing some dude who is usally a shitty caster in a serene setting with a big smile. And WOW, seems like more people fly fish now then ever before!

    I was fishing the Clearwater in October of 92 when I asked this older gentleman who was half way down the run I wanted to fish, if he would mind if I jumped in behind him. He kinda looked me over (figured out i wasn't much of a threat to fish i guess) and snarled at me to go ahead. When I finished the run this guy was back up at his truck and asked me how I did. I told him the top part of the run didn't look as nice once I got to it, as it did from the road. He chuckled and said I was right,adding that you learn from experiance.
    He then told me how the Clearwater was becoming so crowded and that in his opinion "with all the magazines and shows on TV, bowhunting, and fly fishing are being prostituted to death, that one day there are going to be so many damn people on the river and out hunting that a guy is going to have a hard time finding a decent size buck or steelhead much less landing one". I remember thinking to myself this guy is kind of nuts, no way this could happen. Man was I wrong...........

    Remember, cast, swing (my prefrence),STEP, get your fish back on his way as soon as you can, and hopefully there will be room for all of us to fish in,and hopefully plenty fish around for all of us! :beer2:
  9. Michael Thompson the flavor of BADFISH

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    OH....MY....GOD!(?)!........................................................................................
  10. HauntedByWaters Active Member

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    Isn't it amazingly ironic that the baselines are different for every generation but the pattern is the same. That was 4 years before I caught my first steelhead and nowadays the places I fish seem 10X as crowded.........
  11. Salmo_g Active Member

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    HBH,

    One of the differences is that you take less notice of the crowd, whatever size it is, when you first get into the game. The more you fish, and the more experienced you become, the more cognizant you are of everything going on in the rivers. So you notice the crowds more and more, so they appear to be even larger than they are. The river was already crowded when first you arrived, but it takes a while for it to really sink in. Then you really notice it, and the crowd grows even more. It's f'in amazing, or depressing.

    I feel like the bed in Jimmy Buffet's motel. Oh the stories I could tell, and I'm not even an old timer. When first I fished the Sauk, it would be a packed weekend to see a half dozen fishermen. The Wenatchee in the 70s had a very few local anglers, and most were migrant farm workers spin fishing ineffectively and never bothering the fly water. If I saw another west side angler, it was someone I knew. The first few times I fished the Methow, I never saw anyone else fishing at all. Never even talked to anyone else who fished the Methow until the mid 80s, when the Wenatchee suddenly became more popular and Seattleites discovered it wasn't too far for a day trip.

    Ah shit!

    Sg
  12. David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Take heart. If the statistics are right, anglers are a shrinking community. And most of you are old. And I will outlive you. Since fewer new entrants to the sport are coming in than those going out I can look forward to quiet Octobers on the GR again in the future. I'll nymph and bonk a few in your memory.

    Oh and $8 a gallon gas would help too. Maybe some more "economic" downturn to get rid of other anglers disposable income. Won't bother me. I farm, so I'm broke already :)
  13. Oldtoy Member

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    No way...
  14. Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    Digging up a 2yr old thread for that?
  15. PT Physhicist

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    Edmonds, WA
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    Ya, and all my relatives who farm in the mid west are broke too... A new truck every other year and no problems paying for all their other toys. I've heard that story a thousand times.
  16. freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    This is just all part of the grand "re-distribution plan" that's raging across America. What's mine is yours and what's yours is mine ... even if one of us has little or nothing at all. It is completely unfair that some fisherman catch or have in their local waters more than others!

    "Who is John Galt?"
  17. Golden Trout Active Member

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    I have been fishing east side rivers for nearly 40 years. Methow, Okanogan, Similkameen, Wenatchee, and others. My best year was 10 fish with most years equalling "ZERO". Those few years that produced a few fish came about due to previous years of good snow pack. Ocean predation, etc. etc. means nothing when the rivers simply don't have water and most of it quite warm. There have been years when I have seen the hardy, native white fish go belly up due to extremely warm water environments. Most of the fish I caught were 4 - 8 pounds and in piss-poor shape due to low, warm water, conditions and the very long distance these fish have had to travel.
  18. ribka Active Member

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    And the bloodthirsty wolves and the gang bangers looking for an easy mark
  19. Alosa Active Member

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    Seattle
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    This sounds an awful lot like the lobster fisherman from Maine, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and PEI....they all cry poor, but have new trucks every other year, and nice homes. Poor my a$$.
  20. nick42 basket weaver

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    I would expect to see less people on eastside rivers in the future bc the steelhead fishing isn't really any good on the Methow and Wenatchee Rivers. a few good skunkings for these Puget Sounders with rose colored glasses and theyll stay home. who wants to fish for +/- 6 hours/day over a long weekend for one hatchery brat?