proper punctuation

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  1. wadin' boot

    wadin' boot Donny, you're out of your element...

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    Thank you Alex, I have a new way of describing my son's ozone depleting flatulance...

    Alex, I saw this on Slate and thought of you...woulda made my history major much easier, no doubt ( you can zoom in on it with the gray bar on the image itself, pull the bar to the right)

    http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~200375~3001080?trs=2&qvq=q:pub_List_No="1810.000";lc:RUMSEY~8~1&mi=1

    http://pinterest.com/pin/183662491025086534/
     
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  2. Patrick Allen

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    I just read all 4 pages of this and I am still confused and a poor speller. Son of a nutcracker!
     
  3. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Punctuation thread (which was really about capitalization)=One word contest thread

    Karma.
     
  4. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    Red Meat. The cause of Gout in us old farts. Also drinking lots of beer will set it off. Eat and drink with care. You've been warned.
     
  5. Alex MacDonald

    Alex MacDonald Dr. of Doomology

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    Boot, that's a great resource! I do wish I'd had that in the reading list. It's especially good to see the slow rise of empires laid out in a manner that's easy to see, and the dates aren't portrayed as being set in concrete. Thanks!
     
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  6. Mountain Man

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    In a thread about punctuation, it's ironic that your signature line is improperly punctuated. Unless you are adamant that you actually worry.
     
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  7. Alex MacDonald

    Alex MacDonald Dr. of Doomology

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    It's an Alfred E. Neuman quote.
     
  8. Olive bugger

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    Not sure that Alfred E. Neuman did any texting.
     
  9. Roper

    Roper Idiot Savant

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    I'd like to build a bobber...use an older Triumph Bonneville.
     
  10. Lugan

    Lugan Joe Streamer

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    It's doubly ironic that your second sentence is not a sentence. It's a clause that should have been tacked onto the preceding text, separated by a comma:

    "In a thread about punctuation, it's ironic that your signature line is improperly punctuated, unless you are adamant that you actually worry".
     
  11. Jim Speaker

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    The first comma is unnecessary and the period belongs at the end of the sentence within the quotes. :D

    "In a thread about punctuation it's ironic that your signature line is improperly punctuated, unless you are adamant that you actually worry."
     
  12. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    Apparently the position of quotation marks is relevant to style. In the US punctuation goes within the marks. In the UK, Canada or anywhere else under the influence of British education the marks precede the punctuation.

    In addition, I have learned this liberating fact:
    In reporting "silent speech"—noting that language is "said," but internally and not spoken out loud—writers are on their own. Writers can put quotation marks around it or not:
    • Oh, what a beautiful morning, Curly said to himself.
    • "Oh, what a beautiful morning!" Curly said to himself.
    Also:
    Convention normally insists that a new paragraph begins with each change of speaker:
    "I don't care what you think anymore," she said, jauntily tossing back her hair and looking askance at Edward.
    "What do you mean?" he replied.
    "What do you mean, 'What do I mean?'" Alberta sniffed. She was becoming impatient and wished that she were elsewhere.
    "You know darn well what I mean!" Edward huffed.
    "Have it your way," Alberta added, "if that's how you feel."

    I've always worried terribly about these things. Thanks to these four pages on proper US written language in this fly fishing forum I can finally enjoy some peace of mind.

    TC
     
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  13. Brady Burmeister

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    If the quote rests within the sentence then the full stop punctuation follows the quotation marks. If the entirety of the sentence is a quotation then the full stop punctuation lies within the quotes.

    Commas are a bit more iffy, as they can designate a few things, an audible pause being one. In that sense it can be harder to regulate them, because, who are you, to tell me, when I may pause whilst I speak?
     
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    Didn't Victor Borge cover this Punctuation issue years ago?
     
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  15. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    I'm wondering if it would be helpful if we moved on to spacing conventions.

    When is single spacing appropriate?
    How about double spacing?
    Is triple spacing ever correct?

    TC
     
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  16. Jim Speaker

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    Double spacing after end of sentence punctuation and colons went out with the advent of computers and non-monotype. Double spacing is still appropriate when using monotype fonts, however, such as Courier New. That said, I have a hard time breaking my double spacing habits because I learned to type on IBM selectric and continued using these machines during my time as a legal assistant. This was many years ago, but I have a hard time with old habits that are so engrained.

    When is or was triple spacing ever appropriate? I've never used it.
     
  17. bitterroot

    bitterroot Love vintage graphite!

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    C'mon, Alex, this years "One Word Contest" has gone on for 48 freakin' pages! We have bigger problems than punctuation!
     
  18. Mountain Man

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    It is, in fact, a sentence by all linguistic criteria. Your argument is that it's an independent clause, which could theoretically be separated by either a comma or a period.
     
  19. Brady Burmeister

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    Can somebody explain what the hell the "One Word Contest" is, and how you win. This seems as good a thread as any to do it in.
     
  20. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I think this issue is now a dead horse. This should be locked up. Where is a Mod when you need one.
     

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