Puget sound "stinger" clouser swap

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  1. stilly stalker

    stilly stalker Tuna sniffer

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    I would fish those down here in So Cal for bay and sand bass, and halibut
     
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    Mock up nearly done, this will be my color combo, gray/olive/Purple with pearl braid and rainbow flash/white glow flash.

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  3. porterHause

    porterHause Just call me Jon

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    Is that Amherst? Fancy pants!

    Edit: No...it's white glow flash :) Still fancy pants.
     
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    Hmmm, more ideas doggone it :) Thanks, It's basic but still a few tweaks to be had. I have never really obsessed over clousers before, it's kind of stressful :/
     
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  5. Alexander

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    Here's what I think I'll do - I have 18lb Flouro Carbon that I never use, would that work as a line to tie in a stinger or is mono of the same pound rating preferred? I also have Fire Line but it's pretty thin at 20lbs, it's about 8lbs test diameter. so I'm not sure if that would mess up the action. The Flouro is pretty stiff and seems better at keeping the hook from hanging down, or is that a non issue? I'm no stinger pro, so your input is appreciated.

    The fly is a little mix of SF Blend Wild Olive/Gray, Yak Hair UV Off White, Slinky Fiber Black, some krinkle flash and Hanked Lite Brite (Silver)

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    wow my flies suck compared to those. im going to ruin this swap.
     
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  7. Alexander

    Alexander Fishon

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    Dude, not at all, I'm hella insecure about my Clouser flies since people always talk up the more sparse the better, but I never know what too sparse is. Not only that, the gear guys know nothing about sparse and they catch fish too. :) The whole sparse thing is so confusing to me.
     
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    I entered this swap with some hesitation... I was the last person to sign up as I felt my skills might be lacking. However, I realized that by committing to it, I will gain much in knowledge of a style I don't tie very often. I use swaps to push my own envelope, therefore learning and perfection will occur for all of us and we will end up with some cool ties!
    Your ties will be perfect! Just have fun and embrace the challenge!
     
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    Yeah I'm with ya. Gonna have to step up my clouser game for this one.
     
  10. porterHause

    porterHause Just call me Jon

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    Flies are a different ballgame than gear. Too much material on a fly means no action...meaning swimming action. Big chunks of metal in fun shapes push water and bounce around...they don't swim like we want our flies to do. Hope that makes sense.

    For bucktail, the flatwing magician Ken Abrams calls for EXACTLY 30 hairs in many of his recipes...meaning tail and wing each contain EXACTLY 30 hairs. That's a good guideline...but that's pretty anal. Measure 30, see what it looks like...then approximate from there. That should get you in the ballpark.

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    That’s a huge help! Thanks! Do you happen to have any knowledge with regard to trailer line stiffness? If keeping the unsupported hook parallel when picking up the fly by the eyes is a big deal or not, or whether the trailer hook dangles down when picking up the fly by the eyes? I know that different hook sizes weigh different so maybe that’s not a huge issue. I know these may be basic questions but I’m taking the opportunity to get educated here. :D


    Funny as this thread has sparked my interested in the “study” of Clouser flies – I’ve seen a book online somewhere by Bob Clouser I think on tying various Clouser flies… I may have to pinch some pennies and save to get that.
     
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    porterHause Just call me Jon

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    I personally use 30# fireline when I want a chartreuse lateral line and on smaller flies. I started using it because that's what I line my baitcasters with.

    I use 80 lb. powerpro for the bigger flies. Just gotta be careful and choose stinger hooks sized accordingly. Nothing worse than tying a stinger only to realize the hook eye is too small for the line.

    Maybe somebody else can find the thread specific to clouser stingers. I recall SF mentioning doing some experimentation and settling on 80lb powerpro for his clousers.

    Looks like a lot of consensus on 30lb fireline here...

    http://washingtonflyfishing.com/for...stinger-hook-what-material.42683/#post-403361
     
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  13. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    Stiff stinger loops help keep the hook from fouling. You can also double up the 30#if you're in a pinch but the heavier stuff is nice.
     
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    I'll base all my flies in this swap on a 1/0 octopus hook :)
     
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    Just saw this, really jealous I didn't get in on this when it came up. Nice looking flies so far.
     
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    IMGP0069.JPG Well, I found some 40lb Fireline and went with that based on the thread diameter, I probably could have gone stiffer but I wanted these flies to be multi purpose use, for SRC and Coho, the 1/0 hook def does not hang straight back, but I've sampled that on some stiff mono and even then it's got a "lean".. :)

    Gonna do a little production run today, and knock 'em out...I switched it up a bit, can't help it, which is why I need to knock 'em out before I change my mind yet again. :D I've got issues.

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    porterHause Just call me Jon

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    So how did they turn out?
     
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    Mine are in the mail
     
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    I was late to this. Will you please post pics?
     

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