Discussion in 'Watercraft' started by stealth tooner, Mar 17, 2010.
What the hell are "federal" waters?
Thanks to whomever sent this to me last year.
Might shed some light on some waters.
Uncertain as to "Federal Waters" but I believe if commercial vessels and/or the US Coast Guard can touch them that might make them federal in some respect.
Lake Washington, Union Bay, Portage Bay, Lake Union, Salmon Bay are all considered Federally regulated waters because of the Government Locks which allows access to Puget Sound.
I'll try to find more.
Hmm now that I think about it, actually, since pretty much everything is "regulated" under the "federal" clean water act, I would venture a guess that a DA or judge who is a real dickhead could bust you anywhere. Any f@#K holes errrmm.. I mean attorneys out there know the answer?
Any way TroutMaster listen to Kent. He's giving you some good learnin'.
Why should I listen to him, he doesnt know ,hell I dont think he even read the reg's, I have, have you. I was stating that where I fish. I dont fish navigale waters!noow if they want to write me up for no pfd, guilty as charged.
Yes, I have read them. I posted a link to them as well.
You know Mumbles, I think that combined with http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Navigable Waters could provide the technical explanation for where registration would be required. Not sure how "probably navigable" would be handled. But like others have mentioned, odds are better than average law enforcement officers would write a ticket for any boat with a motor in any water and let the court handle it.
I have a new (2010) Skykomish Sunrise. it did not come with a cert of origin and after some research online I found the HIN, but it cannot be read under the powder coat.
if your boat was made after 2000 it has a HIN.
look on the frame section your seat is bolted to.
mine was on the bottom of the right side.
even after using an old school pencil rubbing I still could not make out the HIN
either way... I called Dave at NFO.
he is sending me a new HIN plate (with a new number) and Cert of Origin
he said they get a request often and they will just send out a new hin on an adhesive aluminum sticker.
so far (if you can reach them) NFO has had pretty decent cust service.
I would give them a call and see what they can do for you.
On my new outcast pac 900, it is located on one of the pontoons.
Try reviewing this
And if you want to know what are navigatable waters here in WA
Fed regulated waters begin at something on nautical charts marked with a dashed line and the words "colregs demarcation". That's where the offshore rules end. Locks don't necessarily indicate that it's federally regulated, since locks can be privately owned as well. All watercraft with a motor 10hp or larger and 16 ft or larger must be registered if used on any water other than privately held water. And just because law enforcement will write you a citation doesn't mean they know what they're writing. WA law clearly states the 16ft/10hp requirement, which I just went through when I registered the duck boat, 14 ft but 15hp motor. There is no federal registration of watercraft; closest they come is Coast Guard doing something with vessels-you Coasties jump in here, please? I don't remember what it's called, but some sort of certificate they issue. My sailboat was not large enough to bother with at 22ft. Electric trolling motors aren't rated in HP, so as yet, I'm unaware of any licensing requirement.
Under 16 feet and less than 10 horse power...........not required to be registered in the State of Washington