Rigging trout beads?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Thomas Williams, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    Beads are under appreciated on the swing.
  2. underachiever !

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    Dustin Chromers is the greatest user name on WFF.
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  3. golfman44 Coho Queen

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    Not only that but those posts he made were unbelievable.

    DUSTIN CHROMERS COME BACK TO US.
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  4. triploidjunkie Active Member

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    Next thing you know people will start putting eyes on there flies. Blasphemy!!! (Though it's pretty cool how the ride the bottom hook point up).
  5. Ed Call Mumbling Moderator

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    Judgemental group. Keep it between the lines. Seems like a question asked sincerely to get input from the WFF collective. If it is not your cup of tea, move on along...nothing to see here if you are that much of a purist.
  6. David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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    I pass this along second hand, but coming from a VERY accomplished user of the bead. Pinning a bead right at the hook can interfere with both the hook set (if the bead is near or larger than the space between the tine and the shank...the "gap" i think it's called) and help the fish throw the hook. I also recommend somewhere around 2". And don't shit yourself if the fish is hooked on the outside of the mouth. It hit the bead.

    Beads can be fantastic presentations, and I won't get into if it' a "fly" or not, but in fly only waters it would not be legal. You do not need an indicator, but they won't hurt, and I would only add lead if you really think you need it. In most small waters, frog waters or soft pockets where beads shine, throw upstream and mend. Lead is not usually needed, but as many attest...it probably doesn't hurt either.

    And I was serious...try swinging them sometime for trout, steel, etc. If you have a mid day dull spot they can make magic happen :)

    Try it all, stick to what gets you off...drop that which does not and don't sweat anyone's opinion. Have fun and good luck!
  7. KerryS Ignored Member

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    Oh, now we are being called purists by the pure. Do not have an opinion or you will be labeled elitist, purist, knuckle dragger, mouth breather, puff the magic dragon, etc..
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  8. Gary Thompson dirty dog

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    Glo-bug will work better than a bead. Then you'll still be fly fishing.
  9. Rob Allen Active Member

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  10. Luke77 I hope she likes whitefish

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    This is all good advice. Only to add, that you'll want to tie your hook on with a snell knot. It lends itself better to a straight backwards pull during hookset. This has been tested and proven between many of us that FLY fish with beads.
  11. Jim Speaker Active Member

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    When fishing in Alaska, don't forget to put a bead on the leader just above whatever streamer you are fishing. Don't pin it, just put it on so it can slide.

    EGG-SUCKING-EVERYTHING is the ticket up there. Bead, it's what's for dinner.
  12. Peyton00 Active Member

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    I agree with the 2" length to peg the bead. I have gear fished for years using corkies,beads, fake eggs, i always peg them above the hook. This works best for steelhead, not so much for salmon. IMO.
  13. g_smolt Recreational User

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  14. Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I can't help my self. Here is another outlook on Beads.

    When I gear fished I used to use little corkies. They are about the same size a trout beads. I took my hook tied up a egg loop and inserted my corkies in the egg loop. Worked just like trout beads. But I was fishing with my gear rod.
  15. Jim Speaker Active Member

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    If you used a cream colored marabou stem with some fibers on it to peg it, to imitate the skein material, would it be a fly then? Wouldn't it be a tube fly? Hehe
  16. Peyton00 Active Member

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    The SKEIN SAC FLY... by jim s.
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  17. Josh Stroud Active Member

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    Old man, I appreciate the fact that you do not agree that beads and are really fly fishing and want nothing to do with them. In fact, I only use them at certain periods of the year and doubt I would ever use them in WA. But I think the corkies are much different than how I bead fish. I would literally have tons of bead in many shapes, colors, sizes, ect to get bows to take them. They can be VERY selective when there are eggs in the water, and you really have to match what they are biting. I am not saying that this could not be duplicated with a corkie, but I think it would be very difficult where I was fishing. Either way, to each is own. I am sure you have been fly fishing way longer than I have been born, so I respect you opinion.
  18. Brady Burmeister Active Member

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  19. zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    Beads...Cast ye out the devil, sinner!!

    Having said that I've fished beads behind spawning chums for whitefish. Very effective and garners a good batch of whities for the smoker.
  20. Patrick Allen Active Member

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    I feel that fishing with a two handed rod is just plain wrong. Probably because I won't nut up and buy one. Oh and any fly that uses longer than 3" of fur should also be banned. Using half a chicken will be exempt though. Seriously though go enjoy yourself on the river using whatever technique you deem effective and fun.

    Patrick