River closure

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by skyrise, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. skyrise

    skyrise Active Member

    "Action: Portions of the Cascade and Stillaguamish rivers will be closed to fishing."

    check the WDFW web site for areas that will close.
     
  2. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

    Soon it will be much more efficient to simply list the few that are open.
     
  3. cuponoodle breakfast

    cuponoodle breakfast Active Member

    Makes for a tough gig if you're a guide that focuses on fortson and the cascade.
     
  4. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

    They do this every year in an attempt to save the two worse hatchery programs in the state. The rate of return is abysmal and the programs should be scrapped.
     
  5. Chris Johnson

    Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

    Wow, they usually close the N. fork Nooksack this time of year to collect their hatchery livestock, must be getting a few back this year.
     
  6. Jamie Wilson

    Jamie Wilson Active Member

    Same story just the next season.
    To call the Stilly even a shell of what it once was is a gross understatement.
     
  7. golfman44

    golfman44 Coho Queen

    I spent probably $500 in gas driving to and from the stilly these past 5 months. My ROI is questionable.
     
  8. Cruik

    Cruik Active Member

    Fishing has been real tough on the Stilly for me. This makes some sense. The only steelhead I've managed this season was a skinny, clipped 20" buck. I'm pretty sure that fish just said $%&@ going out to salt water.
     
  9. mine isn't, all natives i caught
     
  10. golfman44

    golfman44 Coho Queen

    Ya you caught mmore than one and they weren't douche bags who broke your rod
     
  11. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

    I had a dream....that the hatchery smolt were being out-competed by the wild ones! :)
     
  12. skyrise

    skyrise Active Member

    always makes me wonder why Tokul creek gets better returns than the Skagit/sky/stilly. other than the fish can rocket through all the slow water from the mouth to fall city. still it makes no sense.
     
  13. Smalma

    Smalma Active Member

    skyrise -
    For decades the Snohomish system has benefited from the highest steelhead smolt survival rates seen in the Sound. Typically whether good or bad times the Snohomish survivals would be the highest followed by the Skagit with a sharp drop off as one moved further south in the Sound. Have to wonder that it may have something to do with the Snohomish fish having the most direct (quickest??) shot to the ocean. Those smolts leaving the north coast rivers typically have even better survivals so there may be something to that closeness to the ocean.

    One thing that confounds the Snohomish system is the cormorant nesting colony found at the mouth of the river. Most of the cormorants leave the Puget Sound region to go to their respective nesting grounds leaving those at the mouth of the Snohomish. One would think that if cormorant predation were a major issue the smolt returns would be lower than average.

    Curt
     
  14. skyrise

    skyrise Active Member

    curt, good info. i thing we all can guess why the stilly has problems. heck with all the slides and such.
     
  15. the_chemist

    the_chemist New Member

  16. CLO

    CLO Boats and cohos

    But even after the lowest number of steelhead back in years on the Methow they leave it open...

    WDFW- you guys have no credibility in this state.
     
  17. Chris Johnson

    Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

    It is a sad state of affairs.
     
  18. thank the good lord I fish the Great Lakes for my steelhead. I wonder why the Great Lakes has such phenomenal steelheading with their hatcheries?
     
  19. golfman44

    golfman44 Coho Queen

    That would be because they aren't steelhead.
     
  20. say what you'd like, but its nice to catch 10 mongoloid fish up to 15 pounds on a nice winter day