Hi Yuhina and Bruce, Thank you for the kind words, Speycasting history has taught me so much, one thing that has never changed over the years is the arguments in Speycasting, its just done differently nowadays. I don't want to hijack this thread, but i thought i would add this as it seems to be about casting light lines. Grant's letter to the Hardy's casting Champion of the time. I conclude that from such a weight of silk, the line must be far too heavy for the length given. I am sending you herewith a wooden match stick, tapered from point to stem, giving the thickness a natural tapered line should have up to 40 yardsor so. Observe that it is marked in three places representing a measurement of 10 yards between each mark, so that a line gauged from its thin end, and at each 10 yards, corresponding to this graduation. Yes .......he sent a exact profile of a 40yrd line on a matchstick. Gordon. DTX Pro Staff.