Scent and Steelhead

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by wet line, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. Flyfishsteel

    Flyfishsteel New Member

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    Leave your stonefly nymph patterns in a jar full of REAL stoneflies for a week. You can't get any better scent than this! Better than power bait!
     
  2. Jerry Daschofsky

    Jerry Daschofsky Moderator Staff Member

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    Nope, never EVER put scent on my flies. If I'm swinging a flyrod, it's no scent at all. Now, on my gear rods, that's a different story (and even then, keep the scents down when I'm fishing jigs, etc).
     
  3. Florian Leischner

    Florian Leischner o_clarki

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    Apparently there are certain things that make fly fishing...well..fly fishing, such as:
    Fishing rods: Graphite good, bamboo even better.
    Fishing line: Horse hair best, plastic, ok. monofilament, no,unless it is the leader...or the running line,... or the tippet.
    WD-40 on you flyline= bad, Armor All = o.k., Orivs brand line cleaner = good
    Split shots= mmmmm...o.k. in Washington, bad in Oregon
    Shrimp oil = bad, Synthetic fly tying material= who cares
    Glo-in-the-dark material = bad; Pink, Chartreuse and flourescent orange = good
    Glo bugs and san Juan worms = great; eggs and worms = yuck !
    Dry fly fishing for steelhead = a must. Weigthed fly with sink tip = flossing, i.e. bad

    Do I have it right ?

    ;)
     
  4. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide

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    I'm with Jerry. I gear fish and try to fly fish for steelhead, but I won't defile my flyrod or ruin my flies by purposely applying scent. I try to remember to rinse my hands in the river before I change flies.

    I don't have a problem with going back to the gear/bait at times for targeting hatchery fish, but never on a flyrod!
    I'll use scent, sandshrimp, or roe with a corkie and yarn setup or a jig when using my spinning rod. I don't put scent(oil screws up the marabou or rabbit) or roe(rarely use roe anymore...didn't cure any eggs at all this year) on a jig, but sometimes a fresh sandshrimp tail(I tube 'em up myself, always a fun low-tide trip to the mudflats in the bay).
    I'll carry my flyrod and also my spinning rod rigged with a jig/float. If I see some water I think may be holding a fish that I can't present a fly to, but can still flick a jig/float into, I'll set down the flyrod, pick up the other gear and have at it.
    So what if that makes me a Heathen Infidel!:p

    Jimbo
     
  5. Monk

    Monk Redneck

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    I just take a piss on all my flies right after I whip finish and cement. ;)
     
  6. Davy

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    so that was the strong odor when you got out of your car:p
     
  7. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I rode in his car and it smelled like he had a distillery in the back seat. But it was a pleasant smell. It brought back many memories. bawling:

    Jim
     
  8. nomlasder

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    Dave, you should of asked for some poxy and sawdust before you left Sunday, if I knew you planned to flavor your flies.
     
  9. Banzai

    Banzai FFing and VWs...Bugs & Bugs

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    But how does one remove the scent of skunk from your gear? :)
     
  10. PT

    PT Physhicist

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    Just don't put it there int the first place......:thumb:
     
  11. Jim Kerr

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    I'm with chad on this, I think scent is important, no, not like putting smelly jelly on flies, but paying attention to what is on your hands when you are handeling or tying flies. I have watched steelhead aproach a fly aggresivly only to turn away at the last second and bolt like they were stung by a hornet. I have seen this many times, and think in at least some of the cases it has to do with scent. Who knows whats good or bad, for instance, why would a steelhead be afraid of human scent, or bear scent more or less than the scent of say oranges or axle greese. I mean the average native steelhead has never had much opertunity to smell any of these things when he first returns to the river.....I try to be sure there are no strong smells on my hands when I am fishing or tying, food smells, coffee, cheetoes...
    Who knows
    JIm
     
  12. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

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    The first steelhead I caught on a fly many years ago took a hairwing wet tied with hair from our dog. And of course with that kind of positive reinforcement many more were tied and used successfully. One of the dogs we own now, (part Belgian Sheepdog) has the longest straightest black hair you'll ever see and boy does it make beautiful streamers...that catch fish!

    We recently aquired a small black poodle. I'm thinking...dubbing...:thumb:

    Our rivers are full of human scent, especially when fishing for summer-runs. I have hooked steelhead immediatly before and after flotillas of tubers and downstream of people swimming in the river. I think they get used to the smell and just consider it a part of their environment. Essentially, they just don't know any better.
     
  13. Phil Fravel

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    My sent naturally keeps steelhead away.
     
  14. Bob Triggs

    Bob Triggs Your Preferred Olympic Peninsula Fly Fishing Guide

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    MY GOD!!!:eek:

    HE'S ALIVE!!!!!:beer2:
     
  15. mr trout

    mr trout Trevor Hutton

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    Back in my bait fishing days as a youngin', I used to spray wd40 on my power-bait then dipin in garlic powder...it worked really well, I must say. In the bright beams of hindsight, I think it is best that I changed my ways.
     
  16. Monk

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    We used to spray the herring plugs when the kings in petersburg got too tight lipped. Worked great. Probably not the best thing for the environment, but we were running twin 250's on that stretch and it was pretty moot at that point.
     
  17. Porter

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    I don't scent my flies.....I dress them up in animal hair and glitter sometimes and let their natural phermones erupt. Nut or Sack cheese as was referred to...correct me if not wrong but I do believe that is the no.1 selling Cougar Gold cheese.
     
  18. papafsh

    papafsh Piscatorial predilection

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    One little thing I learned to do, is to grab a handful of sand or mud from the river and wash, or kinda' scrub my hands and rinse in the river, before tying on a fly.
    Sometimes I remember to do it, sometimes not, but if I'm having a difficult time getting any strikes, where I know there are fish, I'll stop and do it then tie on a new fly. Sometimes it has helped, I guess.
    But mostly I don't think a fish has the time or intellegence to know if a particular odor is actually coming off a fly or not. There being so many sources for unsual odors, like getting something on the felts of your boots walking to the river. Anyone ever spit in the water your fishing?

    LB
     
  19. Davy

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    I always try to spit in the others guys water but definently not in mine.
    Now if one really really wants some extra scent on his/her flies just open up your boxes and leave them in Monks car overnight. Schmittie Flies !!!!!
     
  20. Rob Zelk

    Rob Zelk I swing, therefore i am.

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    The way I tie flies, I don't need scent :cool: J/k. If I'm fishing streamers or for carp, I like to rub them in the mud/dirt of the river/ lake just to negate the human horomone scent. I think its more of just a thing to ease my mind a little; I'm not sure if it makes a difference.
     

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