:ray1: But I just read an article on sculpins or maybe a book that discussed sculpins and their place as large trout food items. I am also sure, absolutly sure that I read that sculpins exist in the ocean as well. Yeah, I was suprised too. I guess there is like over four hundred different genres of sculpins and sea dwellers at that. I am sure you could find a good picture of one in a fish book of the puget sound or something or the other.