Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Jack Devlin, Sep 1, 2012.
not sure what its' name is/was. I'll look through my magazines and see if I can find it.
Hey Jack - HO Candy is all that I can remember right now. I googled it and found a few hits that showed similar style fly patterns.
That's a good one. I don't think it refers to the Hoh.
Anyone got a link to a history of the Coachman fly, or more info about them? Or is it like...peacock body and go with it?
If i'm not mistaken the Royal Coachman is known as the first American born popular fly pattern. I think it was created by a fly tier in New York in the late 1800's. There is a very old book about flies & their histories that was written the same time period by Mary Orvis Marbury (spelling?). If you can find a copy it most likely would have the history of the fly.
I heard somewhere that the fly tier was asked to tie some extra durable coachman flies for a guy to take on a fishing trip. So the tier wrapped the body in floss to help it hold together. He also used wood duck for the tail. Since the end result was not a coachman it earned the title royal coachman.
I'm not certain of all this, its just what I remember being told somewhere or reading somewhere many years ago.
Perhaps some of our more knowledgeable members know the real history or can expand on my limited info.
Here are a few links which may be of help. If you do a search on any one of the patterns mentioned in the first thread post you will get a bunch of results.
The Coachman fly in its many variations is an "old" fly but still viable today. As an example, a pattern currently very popular for steelhead on the Deschutes River (OR) is the Coachman Bucktail Streamer (similar to my Calftail Coachman).
I chose the Coachman style for the theme because it has an interesting history and I thought it would be a good fly for veteran and novice tiers. Also, it will be a good experience to learn the nuances of peacock herl, the one material common to all Coachman flies, and a material used in so many fly patterns. Pick one of the patterns or create your own.
Hope this helps.
"The 'Royal Coachman' and Some of His Henchmen" - Fly Angler's Online Volumn 12 week 17
Royal Coachman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Royal Intruder... Terrible pic. I'll try this again when I figure out the whole photo thing.
Claret Steelhead Coachman
It's a small steelhead fly for those low, clear rivers where the fish like small, dark buggy flies. I hooked one this summer with this pattern but didn't land him. However, as we all know, a steelhead will take anything when he's in the mood... Probably work pretty good for sea-run cutthroat too.
I should have hit the head with one more coat of lacquer but I'll probably lose the fly this weekend anyway so I was lazy...
Alec Jackson Spey #7
Lagurtun gold flat tinsel
Peacock eye hero twisted in a rope with extra-small round Lagurtun gold tinsel "Alec Jackson style"
Claret Berlin wool
Cream rooster breast hackle
Gudebrod #8 black thread
Thomas as always beautiful tie!!
Thomas, I like your fly. I tie a similar one. Don't know where I got the idea/pattern from. I use a copper tag and fuchsia, black, and white schlappen. Cellphone camera and lighting don't do the colors justice.
My contribution is the Wulff version. Took me forever to tie this fly, but I was rather pleased with the result.
Hook: Partridge Captain Hamilton #14 barbless
Thread: Gordon Griffith Sheer 14/0 Black
Hackle: Whiting Bronze Grade Brown
Body: Peacock herl and red floss
Wings: White calf body hair
Tail: Roe deer, winter coat
another spey/swinging variation from me.
I saw one somewhere with a wire mid section, unfortunately i dont remember where, so if you know, let me know.
I went for it and this is the result.
Hook: TMC 7999 size2 (or your hook of choice)
Thread: Red Danville Flymaster 6/0
Tail: GP tippets
Body: In thirds; Peacock Ice Dub, Red Ultra Wire (Lg), Peacock Ice Dub
Wing: White Arctic Fox guard hairs
Hackle: Red GP body feather dyed claret (This came from a custom dyed skin, you can use a natural red feather or even a large brown hen hackle)
I'm going to hold off on picking the Salon winner until tomorrow on the off chance that there might be a spate of last minute entries.
I was reading the Fly Salon instructions and realized that I'd neglected to include the materials. So, I've edited my original post with the materials.
The winner of the September Salon is (long drum roll......................) KENNETH FONG and his Royal Wulff. Not necessarily an easy fly to tie. Great fly in the fast water. Imitates many flies, caddis, hoppers. A long time favorite of mine. While Lee Wulff is often mistakingly credited as the originator, the fly was created by Q.L. Quackenbush in New York. Originally tied with an Impala wing, it was called the "Quack Coachmen". Later on, it was renamed the "Royal Wulff" because of its similarities with the Lee Wulff style fly. Some sources say Lee Wulff re-designed the fly. I don't know.
Thanks Tim, Jon, Kelvin, Billy, Thomas, Eunan for your great entries.
Kenneth, you are the Adjudicator for the October Salon.
Great looking fly Kenneth. You tied it very nicely. Congratulations!
Wow, that was very unexpected! I'm deeply honored, all the flies here were so nicely tied, and thanks much for the kind comments.
After some thought, and after consulting my fly design consultant (my almost 4-month old daughter, Matilda, photo below), I've decided on the venerable Adams as the fly for the October Salon -- I know, I know, not much of a steelhead fly, although I'm sure there're folks here who could design something suitable.
Again, thanks much,
Great flies and adorable kid Kenneth!