SFR: Who would WFF elect?

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Who would you vote for?

  1. McCain/Palin

    85 vote(s)
    30.1%
  2. Obama/Biden

    169 vote(s)
    59.9%
  3. Nader/Gonzales

    7 vote(s)
    2.5%
  4. Other

    21 vote(s)
    7.4%
  1. Gary Thompson

    Gary Thompson dirty dog

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    Who I voted for and who I would vote for are two different people.
    How about Bill Dance and Babe Winkleman
     
  2. headstrong1

    headstrong1 youngish old guy

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    Viewing this thread just resulted in a Palin banner advert at the top of my screen. :hmmm: I have to say that all the talk about her being hot is completely unfounded.

    Certainly an interesting election, not going to be fun for whichever candidate wins. I'm ready for the ads to quit. That governor's race is something seriously petty- makes me not want to vote for either of them their adds are so bad.
     
  3. sportsman

    sportsman Active Member

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    Headstrong1, I got a bit of a chuckle when I saw that ad pop up also.... let Chris get his advertising money wherever he can! Hell, even FOX runs Obamas ads constantly, Mr. Birch...oops, I meant murdoch, knows which side the bread is buttered! As far as Palin being "hot", to each their own, but Decker had the best idea: put her in the 'women in waders' calendar, then decide! God, that is so sexist, but it's all in good fun [ unless of course your the "First Dude". Just make sure the RNC doesn't buy her a set of Simms G4's or it'll be all over the news tomorrow. Montana is a red state, let Simms donate them! I wasn't going to chime in on this thread, but being a left leaning independant, you never know!
     
  4. Jergens

    Jergens AKA Joe Willauer

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    I think that montana is actually a purple state, and its going to be really weird if they have a democratic governor (which they already do) and we have a conservative after this election. the times are changin!
     
  5. Allison

    Allison Banned or Parked

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    *cough*bullshit*cough*
     
  6. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    constructeur and Les, nothing makes an HM and son of two jarheads happier than to see some jarheads getting together for a good chat. I'm still a history major and closer to the definition of a republican than anything else. I believe over the decades that party has drifted astray. I cannot understand how GW got elected because his general life experiences and intellect, or lack thereof, stun me. I've cast my vote, perhaps for the lesser of two bad choices, but that is not my point of writing...this is:

    Thank you both for your service, and to those others who have served, serve now, or will serve in the future. Thank you both for stewardship of our nation in whatever manner needed and for continuing that now with a precious natual resource.
     
  7. 509

    509 New Member

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    Well I'm not voting anytime soon for any dam liberals!!

    Last time I did that we got No Child Left Behind and the Prescription Drug Bill!!! AND the SOB talks a Carter and sends troops into two countries to build Democracies!!! I don't care about building democracies in countries that are still in the middle ages.

    Give me a break. I'll take a pass on both of those left-wingers!

    I was worried that McCain would win and actually implement his lefty ideas. Now I'm worried that Obama will win and the Democrats will implement a socialist workers paradise. I have seen how well those work.

    In any case, there are going to be millions of pissed off voters in 2010. That will be a interesting election.

    If I had two million dollars laying around I would move to New Zealand.
     
  8. flybill

    flybill Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!

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    Geez, guess now you'll see how many of us have felt for the past 8 years! With the current Idiot in Charge (aka 'The Shrub') and Darth Cheney (who really runs the shit...)

    As far as pissed off voters, who has to wait until 2010.. there's plenty on both sides of the aisle and turnout should be high.. at least I hope so! I've been pissed off for the past two presidental elections with the voting crap that has gone on in Florida and other states. I would like to think these problems have been "fixed", but I'm sceptical at best and expect that there will be problems...

    But until late Tuesday (election day) it won't be over, even if it feels like it's over.. I will be casting my vote in person. (http://barackobama.com)

    The real scary thing for the Right wingers is how the Supreme Court will change over the next 4 years with potentially three justices being replaced. Good.. imo, however the Right is scared and rightly so!

    This year will be the year that the incumbents lose or have the greatest chance to actually lose. Now for our Governor's race and my local congress persons, I don't know what to say... I know who I'll vote for, but am not happy with either party and the terrible political ads and tone of both campaigns! But alas, that's the American "Political" way I guess...

    Cynically,
    Bill
     
  9. Ringlee

    Ringlee Doesn't care how you fish Moderator Staff Member

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    509,

    Thanks for supporting the last 8 Years...
     
  10. Flyborg

    Flyborg Active Member

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    Ehh, I normally wouldn't jump into this sort of thing, but the No Child Left Behind Act was signed into law by George W. Bush in 2002. Yeah, it was authored by two Democrats, but it passed the House under a republican majority.
     
  11. Alex MacDonald

    Alex MacDonald Dr. of Doomology

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    I too am greatly disillusioned by the changes within the republicans, but am more so by the shift from the greatness of the old democrats toward a party dominated by screaming socialists. I did two tours at Nha Be and assorted other fun vacation spots. Having seen first-hand what communists do to those who go against the party line, I link socialists and communists under one banner: the only good one is a dead one. It was my honor to fight alongside some of the bravest, most self-sacrificing people I've ever met in our Vietnamese counterparts, and my shame to see them so abandoned by us when it became politically expedient to do so. I see similar things going on now, driven by the left with regard to the Iraq war, and I fear the same results. I want Franklin Raines held to the same standard for "cooking the books" as was Ken Lay-but Raines is a democrat, and apparently not subject to the same scrutiny. I want Hillary's "gifts" of $6,000 pantsuits from this designer in Beverly Hills to be questioned like Palin's $150,000 gifts of clothes from RNC, but I guess that's somehow "different"? I wanted Bush to immediately repudiate the idiots under his command when they were caught doing something wrong, but I didn't see that, either.

    Having studied Obama's voting record, listened to his rhetoric, both old and current, I conclude he's a socialist of the first magnitude. He'd attempt to set us on a course which would be the ruin of this nation. I'm not a fan of McCain, but I urge the undecided among us to take a look at the actual voting records of both candidates, and vote accordingly. Your vote is, next to your life, one of the most precious things you have. I've personally seen people blown to bits fighting for the right to cast an honest, fair vote. Those we saw holding up their purple fingers in Iraq are an example of "mission accomplished". If the liberals aren't able to figure that one out, it's their problem.

    Sorry for the rant, guys. Too many of my ghosts are surfacing with the principals of this election. I find I retreat to the peace of the stream in order to escape them!
     
  12. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    + a globalist, another thing that isn't exactly awesome in my book. though most people seem oblivious to the whole globalism thing.

    and your service, as well as others here, is greatly appreciated by me. though i opted out of going to the air force academy (i had an appointment to attend) and serving myself, i'm not one who takes the work you guys have done for granted.
     
  13. 509

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    I hung in there for as long as I could. Bush did well with Iraq and aid to Africa.

    He just did not have the leadership qualities to initiate and win on difficult issues.

    His administration identified the Fannie and Freddie mess and he folded when the Democrats objected to any changes.

    He had a good energy policy first written in March, 2001. Introduced it four or five times in Congress and never got it pass the Democrats.

    Right now the election would have been totally different if he had raised holy hell on those two issues. He should have gone to public and bashed the Democrats for their refusal to face those issues. Being right is only good if you did something about it!!

    Nice guy Bush. History will probably judge him a better President than Clinton, but since Clinton is there with Cal Coolidge, Bush might end up with Hoover.
     
  14. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    i can see this turning ugly right quick
     
  15. IveofIone

    IveofIone Active Member

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    Sadly, this is getting ugly. It is time for a new poll.

    How many more years will the Republicans continue to blame Bill Clinton for all of their woes and inadequacies?

    a. 4 years

    b. 8 years

    c. 12 years

    d. forever

    e. all of the above

    No need to respond to this one, we already know the answer is e.:rolleyes:

    Ive
     
  16. Jason Decker

    Jason Decker Active Member

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    bill clinton got bush elected by kneejerk reaction
    which bush is now returning the favor for obama
     
  17. Go Fish

    Go Fish Language, its a virus

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    "Bush did well in Iraq"

    Glad to hear it's all good now.

    David
     
  18. Adam Taylor

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    Republican party has completely lost its' way. Partly to blame is the last 8 years of Bush and Karl Rove "masterminding" the appeal to the hard right. On items such as the economy...democrats are polling higher than Republicans...are you kidding me? On issues of defense...Obama is polling higher than McCain...are you kidding me???

    As a registered republican in an ultra liberal state I live with this crap hourly...forget about daily. The republican party has abadoned its' true base to appeal to folks on the hard right. McCain has run a campaign that is embarrassing. Changing message, not attacking Obama in critical issues...hoping beyond all hope that the Bill Ayers, Joe the Plumber, Redistributor...we don't know who Obama is strategy to win the election.

    Let's face it. The Republican Party did not even run a republican in the election.
     
  19. Evan Burck

    Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    The only ones who were even in the primaries were Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. And Ron Paul wouldn't even get mention in the media when he placed 2nd or 3rd in a primary. they would pretend he didn't exist. too bad, he was the best candidate we will probably ever see
     
  20. Tim Lockhart

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    Since this freight train is well on its way to 100 posts worth of whining, stale jokes and girl-fighting (pardon me ladies); lets unwad our Hanes-for-Hers and hear some predictions.

    Mine: First off, we could elect a pair of pliers to office and they'd still end up a hero in 4 years. The present state of our economy, etc. is 95% certain to look better, much better, by end of next term. Whoever we put in that chair will reap the benefit of that, regardless of qualifications and the job they do as Prez. When Obama takes office, and I'd love to be wrong about that, it won't be whether an attempt is made, but when and how many. So far, one that I know of...couple of crackpots but others will follow and likely with brains and a bit more organization. Let's not take a wrong turn here...none of us wants to see that happen...hopefully none of us. Regardless of resume' or work performed, Obama goes out an unfortunate hero/legend to be remembered on U.S. currency and street signs. Biden steps in and inherits an 8 year term...remember that pair of pliers?...not a reflection on Biden, just the right place at the right time.

    My logic: Obama surviving the attempts and making 8 would have more of a potpourri smell, but U.S. history has some undeniable quirks about it. The numbers work just like baseball, and the sad truth is we're due for a hit.

    Your prediction...