"Skagit Master" Anybody Seen it Yet ?

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  1. trekker

    trekker Member

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    I saw a review on this DVD in "Fly Fisherman". Jeff Mishler and Ed Ward.

    Anybody got a personel review on it.
     
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    NomDeTrout Fly Guy Eat Pie

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    Great movie. If you want to dive in head first into skagit casting, good movie to watch. Or if you are already an experienced skagit caster, still good to watch because Ed Ward has a different way of casting and he explains the mechanics of everything, the why's and how's.
     
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    The visual aids are so hi tech that you will be amazed! Worth every penny.
    Seriously, Ed does a very good job breaking down Skagit casting on grass followed by on the river demonstrations.
    The only negative was the lack of fish porn. Made me think dang, I can't cast but at least I catch fish!
     
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    Watched the video and it put me to sleep, soporific voice and subject matter good cure for insomnia.
     
  5. halcyon

    halcyon Hallelujah, I'm a Bum!!!

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    My take on it is that Ed provides the best instruction on this style of casting currently available but the production is not very well done making it hard to use as a teaching tool. One of the biggest problems being that there is no "scene selection" mode to allow you to jump to and from exactly the lesson you are interested in. The "tutorial" portion is better than the "movie" portion in my opinion.
     
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    thats what I thought too, until I realized that if I saw a video with an arse load of sauk and skagit steelhead being caught on the swing, in winter... it wouldn't be believable. either that or I would really have to reconsider my limited skills as a steelheader. I found the footage of that one skagit fish he hooked and lost at the last second more exciting than all the fish porn I have ever watched combined. I mean I actually got goose bumps. and WHY? cause as a steelheader we work and hope our asses off for that one moment that might not turn out right. also it gave beginners a glimpse of what they are getting into.

    as for rest of the flick, I had a couple moments of enlightenment while watching and I thought i was pretty good with the old skagit line.

    Id say for a beginner its totally worth buying. for an old hand its worth watching half a dozen times.
     
  7. Nooksack Mac

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    Paradoxical impressions: Ed Ward is obviously an authentic Skagit- casting Jedi; as a teacher, he's a little too laconically cool to be totally effective. (But that's after my first viewing; after five or six more, I may be thinking, "Of course!") An inherent handicap of filmed casting instruction is that it's in just two dimentions. Skagit casts, especially, need to be seen in three!

    Some of the most enjoyable tidbits are short but sweet: identifying a particular location on the Skagit or Sauk; pulling an Intruder around in a wet saucer to demonstrate its movement; the tame rabbits (at guess where?) nibbling at the same Intruder; Ed's "survival pack" of foodstuffs; etc. Like most casting videos I've seen, it's imperfect but fascinating.
     
  8. NomDeTrout

    NomDeTrout Fly Guy Eat Pie

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    i don't know why and I've never met Ed Ward before, but I always envision him to be a really funny guy...

    one of those guys who seems to have a really dry sense of humor but when he cracks a joke...the whole room is laughing.

    i particularly found the part funny where I think it was Scott Odonnel or McCune talking about his first time meeting Ed Ward, asking him what tribe he's from, "japanese" "schawainese? don't think i've ever heard of that tribe" with Ed's response being "I'm japanese you asshole"
    hahaha, had me rollin on the ground. heard my girfriend laughing too.
     
  9. stewart dee

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    I bet if you ask someone to rent it for a week or two for a few bucks it would happen. I did since I am one of those guys that likes to check it out, but not own it.
     
  10. KerryS

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    I haven't watched the video yet but I have followed Ed through a few runs and learned more from those few follows than all the other anglers I have followed put together. Don't know crap about what makes a good movie or what doesn't but if you pay attention to Ed you have to learn something or you are plan ass stupid.
     
  11. doublespey

    doublespey Steelhead-a-holic

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    +1 on that. Following him thur runs + our conversations. Dec said it years ago - talking to Ed is about as close as you'll get to talking to the river itself.
     
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    As long as I watch it again right before I go cast, I know I will instantly be better. Everyone has their way of learning, but I thought his explanations were very intuitive.
     
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    just bought it from the red shed....looking forward to checking it out!
     
  14. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    buy it
    learn it
    live it
    get a hoodie
     
  15. longstick

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    I wanted to see the line better when he did his grass casting. The rest of the movie was great.
     
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    Seen it! I would have to say after the hype I was a little let down, but I still found value in it.
     
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    I was disappointed in the amount of time spent on the grass. More demo's on the water would make it simpler to understand the casts. I also agree about not being able to navigate scenes being frustrating.

    With that said, I think there is a lot of info to be gleaned from watching it.
     
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    I have been casting a Scandi line for years, so this winter, I put on a compact Skagit, heavy tip and big fly for the first time. I watched Ed's DVD a couple times, went fishing, visualized what I saw and did it. That makes a good video in my book. I don't think Ed's video is made for beginning speycasters. It is a style of speycast that is best accomplished by those that have learned the "touch and goes." I recommend "Skagit Master" to anyone who wants to learn this style of casting.

    Leland.
     
  19. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    This guy had it totally right. Whoever the hell he is.
    seriously. You want to fish right, hit the cast anywhere, you need to study this video.

    Those who think skagit isn't as artful as other styles haven't fished it enough.
     
  20. stewart dee

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    I think Mike K is better.
     

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