We should make an important and overlooked distinction. Risk to an individual fish and the risk of contributing to the likleyhood that a population becomes extinct in the near future. There is an important difference here. Individually, there is a +/- 3% chance that a fish dies in a c&r encounter. The risk that a population goes extinct from a c&r season +/- 0. Probably about the same risk created by turning the lights on in Seattle. Assume that one caught every esceped fish. 180 fish wouldn't live to spawn. That would be unfortunate and sad, but not even close to significant. What about the risk created by the Spring Chinook sport fishery? Wild steelhead are caught there. What about the (risk of) reduced productivity as a result of using chambers creek brood stock in the Skagit? What about the risk of by-catch in the hatchery steelhead commercial and sport seasons? What about the fact that the entire lower river is diked. Why is a c&r season where you make your stand? I just don't get it. Freestone, you're just picking a fight. You seem to like feeling controversial.