skagit vs. the world.

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  1. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

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    Oh yes there is and it is the 8124!:clown:
     
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    Ok Kerry how about this.......
    Have you tried every rod in the world........if not how can you make that call on the 8124?:rofl:
     
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    Don't need to. Found the best rod already.:p
     
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    If my CND specialist were an 8 instead of a 9, I'd argue with you. I wish I could use it throughout the year, as it is amazing rod with midspeys and 50 footers as well. It's just overkill by the end of June.
     
  5. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

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    I got a CND someplace. I think mine is a 9 also, 13'6". Nice rod although I don't think I have had that one on the water for a number of years either. My gripe with the CND I have is they put these little itty bitty stripping and second guides on it. Little guides kill shooting line so I never really considered it much of a "Skagit" rod. I think I put a mid spey on it and it worked better.
     
  6. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    Kerry's right on this one, 8124 is my go to rod
     
  7. Panhandle

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    Interesting you should mention that CND specialist. I just found a new 8 wt for 350.00 I almost pulled the trigger. Should I?
     
  8. KerryS

    KerryS Ignored Member

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    bennysbuddy,

    We are old school. The world of 2 handed rods has left us behind. Hell, when I fish with Skinner we have been refered to as the two old guys in the Wooldridge. WTF? Skinner is still using DTs on his 2 handers and I have been told he can't cast them. Have you seen him cast? The guy is an art form on the river. Its a bitch getting old and using rods built in the early to mid nineties. These youngsters have no respect.
     
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    Which model? Steelheader? Great rod. Really nice with mid and long lines:rofl:

    Seriously though, the steelheader is a fantastic rod. Extremely versatile.
     
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    That's because of Nobuo Nodera. The "N" in CND. He's old school scottish trained. Doesn't your Diawa have the same sized guides? Mine sure did. I have no trouble shooting with skagit, or windcutters. I do gather striped line in my bottom hand, and funnel it with my top hand index though. Old mono shooting head habits.
     
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    I give up you skagit guys are taking over the world!!!
     
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    Yup. The 7th sign was when I sold my Thompson Specialist!
     
  13. yuhina

    yuhina Tropical member

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    Here, here! :clown: I give up too...

    I just dust off the 16' rod last night... and call up a shop for the Carron line!

    Serious question for you Bruce,

    how long it take you to get familiar with a new rod... I mean... finding the sweet spot. (my question is NOT finding a sweet line, but finding a sweet spot on the rod) I believe as soon as the sweet spot of a rod is discovered. There are a lot of line will be used by adjusting the casting stroke...

    Mark
     
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    Now that is a serious rod .
     
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    I manage line in a similar fashion. I don't know how much the smaller guides inhibit shooting line. I think I read it somewhere on the internets and of course took it for the truth. Perhaps it is only my perception and I never got the rod lined correctly. I built a number of different lines for it usually using .030 running line of some fashion. Maybe the larger dia. running line I use is the cause.

    Now I need to dig out the ā€œZā€ and see if the guides are similar. I know the handle and reel seat design is very similar to the CND or is that the other way around.

    Yeah, I remember Nobuo. He used to work at Lochmor and supposedly learned his craft there.
     
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    Mark, I can only speak for personal experiance which I think is what you are asking for. To be frank I think that you might be overanalyzing things, just go out and cast, the fundamentals will get you thru with even a serious mismatched rod and line. Take Mike Kinney as a great example he can pick up any rod that I can think of and make it work with whatever line....why.....fundamentals ;-)
     
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    Bruce,

    I Agree, you know... it's hard to make the brain turn the other way...:eek:
    I have heard the story about Mike, it is really cool.

    Well, the point I would like to discuss is also related to the "favorite rod". For myself, it is a really hard question to answer, the longer a rod I use. it usually become my favorite rod. Not a single rod, they are a bunch of them... I attribute this fact to the factors of knowing a rod, finding their strength (sweet spot) and just know how to deal with them. so... for me, it takes 10-20 trips to know a rod. it could be fairly long... I am not talking about just casting a rod. But, more like casting a rod in a dark night... you might say why would you do that... well... big stripers only feed at night... :beer1:

    Mark
     
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    Mark, I know what you mean about the stripers, I lived on the left coast for 20yrs and would fish the Cape for the last few yrs I was there.
    I do have favourite rods but all seem to resemble each other in action and only differ in length.
     
  19. thewaker

    thewaker Tight line takes ain't no fakes!!

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    I may have even learned a thing or three wading through this stuff.

    Impressive boys! I say go for an even 20 pages.
     
  20. Itchy Dog

    Itchy Dog Some call me Kirk Werner

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    Long belly...Skagit...blasphemy! The true path to enlightenment begins with a T and ends with an A, and has ENKAR in between.
     

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