Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by Panhandle, Feb 4, 2011.
Oh yes there is and it is the 8124!:clown:
Ok Kerry how about this.......
Have you tried every rod in the world........if not how can you make that call on the 8124?:rofl:
Don't need to. Found the best rod already.
If my CND specialist were an 8 instead of a 9, I'd argue with you. I wish I could use it throughout the year, as it is amazing rod with midspeys and 50 footers as well. It's just overkill by the end of June.
I got a CND someplace. I think mine is a 9 also, 13'6". Nice rod although I don't think I have had that one on the water for a number of years either. My gripe with the CND I have is they put these little itty bitty stripping and second guides on it. Little guides kill shooting line so I never really considered it much of a "Skagit" rod. I think I put a mid spey on it and it worked better.
Kerry's right on this one, 8124 is my go to rod
Interesting you should mention that CND specialist. I just found a new 8 wt for 350.00 I almost pulled the trigger. Should I?
We are old school. The world of 2 handed rods has left us behind. Hell, when I fish with Skinner we have been refered to as the two old guys in the Wooldridge. WTF? Skinner is still using DTs on his 2 handers and I have been told he can't cast them. Have you seen him cast? The guy is an art form on the river. Its a bitch getting old and using rods built in the early to mid nineties. These youngsters have no respect.
Which model? Steelheader? Great rod. Really nice with mid and long lines:rofl:
Seriously though, the steelheader is a fantastic rod. Extremely versatile.
That's because of Nobuo Nodera. The "N" in CND. He's old school scottish trained. Doesn't your Diawa have the same sized guides? Mine sure did. I have no trouble shooting with skagit, or windcutters. I do gather striped line in my bottom hand, and funnel it with my top hand index though. Old mono shooting head habits.
I give up you skagit guys are taking over the world!!!
Yup. The 7th sign was when I sold my Thompson Specialist!
Here, here! :clown: I give up too...
I just dust off the 16' rod last night... and call up a shop for the Carron line!
Serious question for you Bruce,
how long it take you to get familiar with a new rod... I mean... finding the sweet spot. (my question is NOT finding a sweet line, but finding a sweet spot on the rod) I believe as soon as the sweet spot of a rod is discovered. There are a lot of line will be used by adjusting the casting stroke...
Now that is a serious rod .
I manage line in a similar fashion. I don't know how much the smaller guides inhibit shooting line. I think I read it somewhere on the internets and of course took it for the truth. Perhaps it is only my perception and I never got the rod lined correctly. I built a number of different lines for it usually using .030 running line of some fashion. Maybe the larger dia. running line I use is the cause.
Now I need to dig out the “Z” and see if the guides are similar. I know the handle and reel seat design is very similar to the CND or is that the other way around.
Yeah, I remember Nobuo. He used to work at Lochmor and supposedly learned his craft there.
Mark, I can only speak for personal experiance which I think is what you are asking for. To be frank I think that you might be overanalyzing things, just go out and cast, the fundamentals will get you thru with even a serious mismatched rod and line. Take Mike Kinney as a great example he can pick up any rod that I can think of and make it work with whatever line....why.....fundamentals ;-)
I Agree, you know... it's hard to make the brain turn the other way...
I have heard the story about Mike, it is really cool.
Well, the point I would like to discuss is also related to the "favorite rod". For myself, it is a really hard question to answer, the longer a rod I use. it usually become my favorite rod. Not a single rod, they are a bunch of them... I attribute this fact to the factors of knowing a rod, finding their strength (sweet spot) and just know how to deal with them. so... for me, it takes 10-20 trips to know a rod. it could be fairly long... I am not talking about just casting a rod. But, more like casting a rod in a dark night... you might say why would you do that... well... big stripers only feed at night... :beer1:
Mark, I know what you mean about the stripers, I lived on the left coast for 20yrs and would fish the Cape for the last few yrs I was there.
I do have favourite rods but all seem to resemble each other in action and only differ in length.
I may have even learned a thing or three wading through this stuff.
Impressive boys! I say go for an even 20 pages.
Long belly...Skagit...blasphemy! The true path to enlightenment begins with a T and ends with an A, and has ENKAR in between.