Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Thomas Williams, Apr 28, 2013.
Spent most of the day at the vice. Some good results I think. Let me know what you think.
I like the looks of the mustard colored soft hackles.
I see gaps...and pink.
Very Nice ties!
I see fish food!
I'm pretty sure the fish will forgive the gaps chewy. And its shrimp hares ear not pink
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nice soft hackles
wheres the copper johns?
from charlie craven
Those are my own version of a copper john. You can call them wire body nymphs if it makes you feel better. Very rarely will I copy a pattern exactly.
The actual Cooper John is a pain to tie. I too have came up with a pattern that is easier to tie and works about the same. Less is more.
If I remember correctly it wasn't that long ago that you were telling the forum that you were going to start tying. It's been cool seeing the great ties you've done in many different styles. These are really nice and remind me of a fly called the Bird of Prey. It's one of my favorites for fall trout that are keyed into caddis pupa.
Thanks Patrick. Ive been tying now for about 4 or 5 months. Im totally addicted and have been rapidly filling fly boxes with my own patterns. I have a similar pattern I tied that looks like your bird of prey ill upload it when I get off work. Its tied on a size 10 Scud hook and weighted heavily for my anchor fly. Also instead of partridge I used Guinea feathers dubbed in the split thread technique.
I'm taking a bit of a tangent for this thread but Patrick's fly is very similar to what Hoof used at Rocky Ford in August of last year. Hoof was the BC guy down here on vacation and I had planned a skunking for him. His fly worked well at RF. My guess is they liked the shape as a shrimp. I don't think RF has #12 caddis.
I agree on the original copper John being a pain to tye. I too have made modified versions that are simpler. I like what you haev done Thomas! They look go to me.
Now I feel bad. My soft hackles are a lot more sparse. Maybe I should but a bit more dressing on them.
Nice work on the flies Doc.
You know ive thought it was maybe a bit thick but I like the way they turned out. I do have some with less hackle like the green ones with orange ribbing and rusty brown dubbed around the wings.
Well, according to Sylvester Nemens, in his tome, THE SOFT-HACKLED FLY, a color plate on page 96, shows several different dressings. All of them seem to be dressed with hackle that is fuller than I dress my flies. The Partridge and Orange at the bottom of the page has a more sparse hackle and is closer to my dressings. I have had fair to good success with them, depending on how the fish feels about them. I derive my pleasure from tying them and fishing them. I leave the critical choice up to the fish.
If I was not so dense and had a way to show them I would. I guess you will just have to take my word on it. However, I am a fisherman and fishermen have sometimes been known to stretch the truth.
Heck, I nearly tear it apart sometimes.
Some of my soft hackles have sparse hackling, some are on the heavy-set side. I thought I tied the olive and black soft hackle I was using on Saturday with too thick of a hackle but the trout loved it so I was wrong.
I have been wrong on so many occasions. I just never admit it to myself. I find it is easier to blame the fish.