Willapabay, Loomis has 2-hand rods for about $480.00, check their web site for the particulars. Granted, these are more mid-priced rods than lower-priced ones; but they do offer a lot more performance if have the technique to take advantage of it. The TFO's I've cast have been nice moderate actioned 2-handers, which means they are faster than the ECHO 2-handers that also sell for $250.00. They are made in China; but they are a very good value. For just a $100.00 more you have the Redington (a medium-fast rod series) and the new St. Croix (an action between the Redington and TFO) 2-handers that have more performance built into them than the TFO.